bigcitysmalltown with Bob Rivard
Sep 25, 2026 · 35 min · 15 segments
This week on bigcitysmalltown, filmmaker Ben Masters joins Cory Ames for an in-depth look at Texas’s rivers, conservation, and the stories behind **Deep in the Heart 2: Texas Rivers** out in theaters…
Ben MastersGuestCory AmesHostAnd I'm always curious too, you know, picking up a camera myself at some point and wanting to tell stories in that way about, you know, where we live and the places we enjoy.
What was the thing that took you actually from just appreciating being outside, being outdoors in these beautiful spaces and to actually picking up a camera and trying to figure out how to shape some sort of story around it?

I think for me, seeing just the impact that Unbranded made on people, you know, we got hundreds of horses adopted.

Changed a lot of the conversations that were happening within the Bureau of Land Management, within some of the wild horse and burrow policy at large.

I was like 28 and was invited to sit on the wild horse and burrow advisory board within the Bureau of Land Management to represent the interest of wildlife on like 30 million acres, which looking back is way too much responsibility to put on a kid that age.

Film, it has a way of transporting people to experience something in a way that no other form of media has.

So, you know, a door opened, I started, I directed my first short film called Water From Stone about David Bamberger, and then got to do a whole bunch of short films and then directed my first feature film called The River and the Wall about the insanity of building a wall on some stretches of the Texas-Mexico border.

that opened up deep in the heart one uh which we did and then you know now we're at deep in the heart two and have several films on deck so it's been fun
And I'm always curious too, you know, picking up a camera myself at some point and wanting to tell stories in that way about, you know, where we live and the places we enjoy.
What was the thing that took you actually from just appreciating being outside, being outdoors in these beautiful spaces and to actually picking up a camera and trying to figure out how to shape some sort of story around it?

I think for me, seeing just the impact that Unbranded made on people, you know, we got hundreds of horses adopted.

Changed a lot of the conversations that were happening within the Bureau of Land Management, within some of the wild horse and burrow policy at large.

I was like 28 and was invited to sit on the wild horse and burrow advisory board within the Bureau of Land Management to represent the interest of wildlife on like 30 million acres, which looking back is way too much responsibility to put on a kid that age.

Film, it has a way of transporting people to experience something in a way that no other form of media has.

So, you know, a door opened, I started, I directed my first short film called Water From Stone about David Bamberger, and then got to do a whole bunch of short films and then directed my first feature film called The River and the Wall about the insanity of building a wall on some stretches of the Texas-Mexico border.

that opened up deep in the heart one uh which we did and then you know now we're at deep in the heart two and have several films on deck so it's been fun
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