Grief, Gatherings, and Connection with Dana Pake

Yeah.

For a complex topic.

I think it really fits there.

And very interesting.

I like this Bardo concept.

I'm like, I could even just see an event professional adopting even just that phrase of just saying you are a different person than we are in this exact moment.

Then you will be two hours from now or a day from now or, And that I know is when we think getting out of kind of the emotional part and the logistics part, it's like, well, that's what everyone hopes that happens at their events.

But it's like, is that true in how you design it and how you create that experience? So that is a true statement that, yes, I'm different from when I started, when I finished.

Maybe the Buddhist side is it's always going to be different, but maybe you're just only marginally different versus massive shift.

That's it though, Logan.

I'm glad you said that.

It doesn't need to be.

It's just incremental.

And I think part of it, and that's why I really put a lot of thought into what coherence is.

For me, it's just really intentionality because your attendees can leave transformed in some way.

And a woman I work with and a mastermind, she talks about how to have an experience means you are changed in some way.

There is a shift, but without the intentionality.

Are you guiding people to the right kinds of transformation that might be positive for them versus they can have a pretty crummy experience at your event and they are changed because you've changed their opinion inadvertently or not.

Yeah.

But I don't think it needs to be so overly engineered or that it takes a lot of money.

What it does take is a lot of thought and intentionality and sincerity.

Yeah.

Well, hopefully someone perked up of not hearing a lot of money that you have to do to do any of that because that is what I think some people are like, well, I don't have the funds to add or do any of those things.

But we'll get a little tactical later.

You kind of answered this a bit, but if you want to elaborate any more about what your own grief experience taught you about the power of connection.