Sep 14, 2026 · 46 min · 10 segments
Francisca Dodiat joins **Banana Lab** for a conversation about growing up Indonesian in New Zealand, reconnecting with culture as an adult, working in addiction and mental health, and taking a year…
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you've got a different relationship with Indonesia than people who just go for holidays do.
of all this tourism to Bali? I mean, it's a bit of a mixture because like, I'm obviously getting married there and I'm going to be a part of that.
Obviously, you know, like a lot of our friends are going to be coming and we're going to really like promote people spending some time in Bali too.
Not, not kind of just like flying in and out, but, And I always have mixed feelings when I go because I go and I love it and there's – You do get to experience Indonesia, but it is really accessible for someone who might not be used to the busyness.
But then you also see the other sides, which is I think sometimes a lot of tourists might act quite different in Bali compared to what they're like in their home country.
I mean, yes, but also, like, I don't know if you noticed it when you were there, but I think there's a lot more drink driving.

you've got a different relationship with Indonesia than people who just go for holidays do.
of all this tourism to Bali? I mean, it's a bit of a mixture because like, I'm obviously getting married there and I'm going to be a part of that.
Obviously, you know, like a lot of our friends are going to be coming and we're going to really like promote people spending some time in Bali too.
Not, not kind of just like flying in and out, but, And I always have mixed feelings when I go because I go and I love it and there's – You do get to experience Indonesia, but it is really accessible for someone who might not be used to the busyness.
But then you also see the other sides, which is I think sometimes a lot of tourists might act quite different in Bali compared to what they're like in their home country.
I mean, yes, but also, like, I don't know if you noticed it when you were there, but I think there's a lot more drink driving.
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