Jul 28, 2026 · 47 min · 13 segments
Growing up in rural South Africa, Tshilidzi Marwala first learned about engineering from his grandmother's handmade clay pots. Now rector of the United Nations University, the Under-Secretary-General…
Tshilidzi MarwalaGuest
Melissa FlemingHost
I th- I think the idea of making education accessible in every way possible is an important issue

Well, maybe more than just AI, uh, because I, I have my own skepticism, you know? Uh, uh, uh, I think databases, even just Wikipedia, has been a very valuable source of information

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. AI, the training of large language models actually rely heavily on Wikipedia.

If you were to go and ask AI, "Tell me about Adam Smith," I mean, there mu- there must be lots of Adam Smiths, but there is one Adam Smith that has a huge Wikipedia page, the one who, who, who, who, who, who, who wrote Wealth of Nations.

On the other hand, there are those who are, who know this very well, and they're creating, they're creating content that they know that AI will feed on that is not accurate

That in itself is not an issue because we always knew that AI is not accurate

I th- I think the idea of making education accessible in every way possible is an important issue

Well, maybe more than just AI, uh, because I, I have my own skepticism, you know? Uh, uh, uh, I think databases, even just Wikipedia, has been a very valuable source of information

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. AI, the training of large language models actually rely heavily on Wikipedia.

If you were to go and ask AI, "Tell me about Adam Smith," I mean, there mu- there must be lots of Adam Smiths, but there is one Adam Smith that has a huge Wikipedia page, the one who, who, who, who, who, who, who wrote Wealth of Nations.

On the other hand, there are those who are, who know this very well, and they're creating, they're creating content that they know that AI will feed on that is not accurate

That in itself is not an issue because we always knew that AI is not accurate
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