Feb 6, 2026 · 33 min · 10 segments
The Trump White House is changing the rules of our political system through intimidation, the distortion of information, financial corruption, and the dismantling of government offices. In the final…
Stacey AbramsGuest
Anne ApplebaumHostDawn Baldwin GibsonGuest
She's one of more than sixty thousand North Carolina voters who had the legitimacy of their vote challenged in twenty twenty-four.
One of the races on the ballot was for the North Carolina Supreme Court.
I actually went to vote as an early voter, and this is something that for many years I have done with my family, showed my ID, went in, cast my vote, and really thought nothing else about it until a couple of weeks went by.
[pensive music] Republican candidate Griffin is challenging more than sixty-five thousand ballots in the North Carolina Supreme Court race, arguing three main-
They were showing that I had done everything that I was supposed to have done for my vote to count.
But Jefferson Griffin's team, they were the ones challenging my vote, and that seemed like changing the rules after the results are not what you want.
What can I do?" So we got a local church, we wrote letters, we talked to the local media.
After months of back-and-forth legal rulings, the challenge to November Supreme Court election ruling is over.
So yes, in the end, we did get our votes to count, but it put a lot of stress.
I come from a rural community, and the word we would use is it was a lot of worriation.
They felt like, every time I go to vote, is this what I'm gonna have to put up with? Go vote, and then there's a challenge.
[pensive music] My maternal grandfather, Frederick Douglass Fisher, both of his parents were slaves.
He believed in being a part of the American democracy process, and that process was voting, and that we, as his children and grandchildren, had a responsibility to show up and vote.
And so there was a great pride in that, and to know that we are now in a time where we are seeing our votes being challenged, it is our responsibility...
This is our time where history will look back and say, "In twenty twenty-five, there were people that stood and said, 'I will be seen, I will be heard, and my vote will count.'"
[pensive music]
She's one of more than sixty thousand North Carolina voters who had the legitimacy of their vote challenged in twenty twenty-four.
One of the races on the ballot was for the North Carolina Supreme Court.
I actually went to vote as an early voter, and this is something that for many years I have done with my family, showed my ID, went in, cast my vote, and really thought nothing else about it until a couple of weeks went by.
[pensive music] Republican candidate Griffin is challenging more than sixty-five thousand ballots in the North Carolina Supreme Court race, arguing three main-
They were showing that I had done everything that I was supposed to have done for my vote to count.
But Jefferson Griffin's team, they were the ones challenging my vote, and that seemed like changing the rules after the results are not what you want.
What can I do?" So we got a local church, we wrote letters, we talked to the local media.
After months of back-and-forth legal rulings, the challenge to November Supreme Court election ruling is over.
So yes, in the end, we did get our votes to count, but it put a lot of stress.
I come from a rural community, and the word we would use is it was a lot of worriation.
They felt like, every time I go to vote, is this what I'm gonna have to put up with? Go vote, and then there's a challenge.
[pensive music] My maternal grandfather, Frederick Douglass Fisher, both of his parents were slaves.
He believed in being a part of the American democracy process, and that process was voting, and that we, as his children and grandchildren, had a responsibility to show up and vote.
And so there was a great pride in that, and to know that we are now in a time where we are seeing our votes being challenged, it is our responsibility...
This is our time where history will look back and say, "In twenty twenty-five, there were people that stood and said, 'I will be seen, I will be heard, and my vote will count.'"
[pensive music]
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