'Kitchen Confidential' - by Anthony Bourdain

We'll start with the author.

So, Matt, you brought this one to the table, the kitchen table, if I may.

Anthony Bourdain.

Yes, I got

very lucky in the way I discovered Anthony Bourdain.

I did everything in the wrong order.

And if you, like me, vaguely know who he is, may I suggest... that you step away at this point and perhaps do a little bit of research, take yourself on an emotional journey.

What I tried to do for Steve and Bobby was say, look, this is the weird wrong way round that I discovered it.

I started with his television programs and then moved on to a documentary about him and then moved on to this book.

And yeah, I...

I got so lucky that, yeah, I don't know.

Guys, were you able to go on that journey? Did you discover Anthony Bourdain the same way that I did? TV first

for me.

Okay.

Yeah, it was TV.

So I've seen clips of him and I've heard his name, but that's about as far as it's gone.

But I also hear a lot of people talking about him as well.

And he's like, he's one of the people who think, I must get into him.

So when you sort of add it to the list of people you must know to be cool with other people, you know?

Well, yeah, unlike Steve, I had never heard of him before.

I didn't know how cool he was.

I wish I did because my dad's a chef or was a chef.

And I love to have shared him with him because my dad would have loved it.

But also you told us to watch the episode in Peru and Korea.

So what I did is ignored your advice to watch the one where he visited Glasgow.