Oct 13, 2026 · 35 min · 12 segments
It’s a particularly watery moment, with a hurricane on the Gulf Coast and El Niño-fueled waves flooding California homes. Not helping: The seas are rising, and they’re going to keep rising. How much…
Jesse KeenanGuestFirst of all, this headline that a city in America is going underwater and there's nothing we can do, every fiber of me resists that.

You know, we could cut off all carbon emissions today, and we have hundreds of years of sea level rise baked in, uh, no doubt.
So Jesse says the total amount things will heat up does depend on what people do in the future.
But what's currently on the stove is already enough for the coast to retreat back miles and miles past where New Orleans is.

I mean, it's, it's, it's arguably the highest or most vulnerable place in the world for sea level rise, point blank.
The paper described it as, quote, "past the point of no return." But if there's no stopping the water, then obvious solution two, build a seawall.
With great respect to what New Orleans already has, over 100 miles of levees and surge barriers to the tune of 14 billion dollars, as the seas rise, the walls will need to tower far higher and draw tighter.
Soar over the Netherlands, where the North Sea looms hungrily over a quarter of the nation.
Holding it back, you'll spot ramparts, seawalls, sluices, dams, dikes, drainage fields, and every type of fortification you can imagine, dwarfing anything we have in the US.
First of all, this headline that a city in America is going underwater and there's nothing we can do, every fiber of me resists that.

You know, we could cut off all carbon emissions today, and we have hundreds of years of sea level rise baked in, uh, no doubt.
So Jesse says the total amount things will heat up does depend on what people do in the future.
But what's currently on the stove is already enough for the coast to retreat back miles and miles past where New Orleans is.

I mean, it's, it's, it's arguably the highest or most vulnerable place in the world for sea level rise, point blank.
The paper described it as, quote, "past the point of no return." But if there's no stopping the water, then obvious solution two, build a seawall.
With great respect to what New Orleans already has, over 100 miles of levees and surge barriers to the tune of 14 billion dollars, as the seas rise, the walls will need to tower far higher and draw tighter.
Soar over the Netherlands, where the North Sea looms hungrily over a quarter of the nation.
Holding it back, you'll spot ramparts, seawalls, sluices, dams, dikes, drainage fields, and every type of fortification you can imagine, dwarfing anything we have in the US.
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