76: A (CS)2AI Fellows Panel: S4 Takeaways and a Look Ahead at Our industry

Let's talk about, let's dive into some of the findings.

And everybody who's attending today, you can ask Chris and Patrick something that's not something they brought up right now.

They are very deeply knowledgeable about the space.

And so if there's something you want to ask in the space, get it on the question.

If I can get to it, I will.

You can ask it now.

We'll try to stick to stuff that they're talking about, but we may have time to ask something else.

Obviously, OT cyber related, but it doesn't have to be something they brought up.

So maybe each of you can talk about sort of some of your top findings walkaways uh you thought from the presentations and discussions there

well you know so you know we're talking about s4 itself and the evolution of things and so forth and it's been obviously an interesting say four or five years right and for this particular event right and uh i i should have thought of this before this uh this recording i can't remember exactly what the one right before you know the world changed in the pandemic yet and so forth but there was in the middle there was the s4 last year you know that uh you know i went and you know one of the first things in post this.

And now there was this year or I guess last year.

Now this, this one, as you say, it was a big, huge event and shows a lot of things we'll talk about.

And the, you know, the topics last year in my, especially at the moment is supply chain, right.

You know, or, you know, prime, prime thing I'm thinking about, but last year it was an understood sort of thing.

This year was a big thing.

I think for the standard, you know, what is a takeaway from this annual event sort of thing? supply chain and software bill materials is a given now.

A year ago, it was probably a thing that people are really talking about.

This year was the main thing going on, the main talks and so forth.

In addition to it being, let me put it a different way, I think it's mainstream.

It's now mainstream.

And it's even so mainstream that we're looking for ways to It's so mainstream, it's not fragmented, but it's matured into different refinement points as well, because there was some discussion of not just like SBOM, which, of course, a few years ago, SBOM, people were like, what the hell is that? So but now it's SBOM is mainstream.

And now we're looking at things like SBOM, which is the software bill of behaviors.

So we're now riffing on what is kind of a given, which is OK, SBOMs, you need SBOM.

What is it? It's not not what is it? It's we know what it is.

And now we're adding to that in unique and creative ways.