Cross-city learning with Jack Makau and Temilade Sesan

**“When we talk about exchanges, we are not saying one city go to another city to learn. It is one city going to another city to participate in something that is happening there. So there's no workshop style learning. It is just come and experience with us and it provides you opportunity to reflect on your own scenario, maybe adopt it or find reasons why it doesn't work for you.”** This episode is a conversation originally recorded for Urban Radar, hosted by ACRC’s incoming CEO, Tom Goodfellow, and Beth Perry, Director of the Urban Institute at the University of Sheffield. Recorded at ACRC’s last city managers meeting in Kampala, Uganda, the main discussion is between Tom and two of ACRC’s city managers: Jack Makau, Nairobi city manager, and Temilade Sesan, Lagos city manager. They talk about the action research that’s underway in their cities as part of ACRC, along with how urban communities in informal settlements can build power through their own forms of knowledge and data collection, and how two-way exchanges between cities can strengthen this process. > Subscribe to Urban Radar Tom Goodfellow is ACRC’s incoming CEO and Professor of Urban Development in the Global Development Institute at The University of Manchester. Beth Perryis Professor of Urban Epistemics and Director of the Urban Institute at the University of Sheffield. Jack Makau is Associate Director of SDI Kenya and ACRC’s Nairobi city manager. Temilade Sesan is a social development researcher and ACRC’s Lagos city manager. \---- Music: Brighter Days | Broke in Summer Sounds: Zapsplat *This podcast presents the views of the speakers featured and does not necessarily represent the views of the African Cities Research Consortium as a whole.*  Stay up to date with the latest publications, announcements and insights from the African Cities Research Consortium: > Website > E-news > Bluesky > LinkedIn > YouTube > X (Twitter)