Mm-hmm.

Uh, so this project is looking both at official data and informal arrangements, and there are plenty of informal arrangements.

And then there's, uh, the age-old question, which is the third project, of how do you provide sewer and water in informal settlements, uh, given the densities, given the lack of planning, and so on.

Uh, then we have a fourth project, um, that is looking at waste management, sanitation.

And then, uh, we have a fifth project, uh, that aligns with Nairobi's, uh, attempt to regenerate its rivers, and trying to say, "How does this look in informal settlements?" It's very different from the rest of the city.

There are people occupying those lands.

Uh, they have different needs.

But how has ACRC and that kind of much more structured engagement with academic researchers changed the kinds of questions that you're asking or changed perhaps the way you think about knowledge generation in your work?