Oct 11, 2026 · 1 hr 9 min · 11 segments
Get the latest update on Dr. Conrad Vine and True and Free SDA, with details about the prison release and what comes next.
Uh, so, uh, you know, I, I recognize that, you know, the official Adventist Church and the True and Frees, um, don't have a good relationship.
Um, the official Adventist Ch- Church in the Euro-Asia Division today, they are mostly the descendants of the, the official church in the Soviet Union.
And, and so the, the, the bad feelings or the, the hurt feelings and the sense of betrayal from what happened in the Soviet Union still exists today.
Um, and so, uh, when you're in the Soviet Union or, or you're in Russia, there is still a cl- still a clear distinction between the official Adventist Church, um, which has state registration, and the True and Frees who refuse state registration.
And so they operate mostly in house churches rather than official, you know, churches or places of worship.
Um, but, uh, my view is that, um, God does not differentiate between us on the basis whether we are registered with the state or not.
Amen.
And, and whether they are True and Free Adventists or official Adventists in the Euro-Asia Division, we are still brothers and sisters in Christ.
And, um, you know, when, when the, when the shepherd is struck, the flock is often scattered.
And as we saw during COVID, um, a- and, and other times like in Romania during the persecution by Ceaușescu, when persecution comes to Adventists, we don't all respond in the same way.
People respond in different ways to persecution, and they're not to be condemned for how they respond to persecution because we don't know how we would respond to the same persecution.
Yeah.
And if persecution were to come our way, um, you know, Brother Justin and, and, uh, Pastor James, uh, we may respond in three very different ways.
And it doesn't mean we're evil, it's just mean we respond in the best way we can.
Mm
... um, he is being deported now, and he left the country, um, earlier this year, um, when his sentence was commuted.
And so, um, he was sentenced, but then the sentence was commuted and he was deported from the country.
Um, after which, um, the, the government, um, uh, um, the government, um, uh, started their official investigation into the, um, into the, um, True and Free Adventists.
And here this report you have is from the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom.
And I think this is an, an important tool, and, uh, just to share with your viewers, um, the US State Department runs the US Commission on International Religious Freedom.
Uh, so, uh, you know, I, I recognize that, you know, the official Adventist Church and the True and Frees, um, don't have a good relationship.
Um, the official Adventist Ch- Church in the Euro-Asia Division today, they are mostly the descendants of the, the official church in the Soviet Union.
And, and so the, the, the bad feelings or the, the hurt feelings and the sense of betrayal from what happened in the Soviet Union still exists today.
Um, and so, uh, when you're in the Soviet Union or, or you're in Russia, there is still a cl- still a clear distinction between the official Adventist Church, um, which has state registration, and the True and Frees who refuse state registration.
And so they operate mostly in house churches rather than official, you know, churches or places of worship.
Um, but, uh, my view is that, um, God does not differentiate between us on the basis whether we are registered with the state or not.
Amen.
And, and whether they are True and Free Adventists or official Adventists in the Euro-Asia Division, we are still brothers and sisters in Christ.
And, um, you know, when, when the, when the shepherd is struck, the flock is often scattered.
And as we saw during COVID, um, a- and, and other times like in Romania during the persecution by Ceaușescu, when persecution comes to Adventists, we don't all respond in the same way.
People respond in different ways to persecution, and they're not to be condemned for how they respond to persecution because we don't know how we would respond to the same persecution.
Yeah.
And if persecution were to come our way, um, you know, Brother Justin and, and, uh, Pastor James, uh, we may respond in three very different ways.
And it doesn't mean we're evil, it's just mean we respond in the best way we can.
Mm
... um, he is being deported now, and he left the country, um, earlier this year, um, when his sentence was commuted.
And so, um, he was sentenced, but then the sentence was commuted and he was deported from the country.
Um, after which, um, the, the government, um, uh, um, the government, um, uh, started their official investigation into the, um, into the, um, True and Free Adventists.
And here this report you have is from the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom.
And I think this is an, an important tool, and, uh, just to share with your viewers, um, the US State Department runs the US Commission on International Religious Freedom.
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