Aug 10, 2026 · 28 min · 11 segments
In this episode, we continue our book study on Friendship in the Lord and reflect on the gift of friendship as a foretaste of heaven and a living image of God's love. We talk about how we are meant to…
Miriam James HeidlandHostMichelle BenzingerHostHeather KhymHostLike, part of me was feeling like he redi- reiterates a lot of points that he has made already in previous chapters, but the part of it that almost like friendship is worship, you know, in the next two chapters, and that it is a foretaste of heaven.
And there's a clip in that first chapter about St. Catherine of Siena talking about the beautiful communion of saints.
And when I was thinking about it, I was getting the image when I was reading the book, these, I mean, these two chapters in the book, about it's a huge family dinner.
But hey, you were the one that helped me get here, and you helped me get here." Just like a good family dinner, you know, and, "Hey, pass the potatoes," and all that kind of great stuff.
And so, like, but it's a beautiful heavenly banquet, and that is what he is calling us to.
But that the, that true friendship is actually, like, one of his most beautiful, divine pieces of art, artwork that he wants to show the rest of the world.
We see that in the Old Testament, how beautiful is it for brothers to dwell with one another.
Like, when you see really good friendship or really good relationships done really well, and when they're knitted together with the Holy Spirit, it is a foretaste of heaven.
Yeah, that's so good, and I think he's reiterating again that our friendships with one another aren't a means to an end, that it all comes together, and I love this on page 92.
He said, "Thus, friendship is meant to last forever." I'm gonna read more, but just that was like mic drop.
And he goes on to say, "It's not a stage that falls away when we've used it to come to divine intimacy and to universal love of our fellow men.
It's not a mere means to God, which is to be cast aside when it has served its purpose, for I do not love others only as a means to friendship with the Holy Trinity.
He is always an end in, in himself to be loved for his own sake." And I, I love all of that, and I love that friendship is supposed to be forever, you know? The unity that you feel, especially when people are in the Lord, is quite tremendous.
I remember we went over to England just, like, a month ago to do a retreat over there.
there.And we got in a room with a bunch of people on a team that we, that were gonna be the team serving there, and we had never met them before.
Oh, they have a heart like mine." You know, they have a heart like mine, and there was just suddenly this unity in the Spirit that was just in the room.
Like, part of me was feeling like he redi- reiterates a lot of points that he has made already in previous chapters, but the part of it that almost like friendship is worship, you know, in the next two chapters, and that it is a foretaste of heaven.
And there's a clip in that first chapter about St. Catherine of Siena talking about the beautiful communion of saints.
And when I was thinking about it, I was getting the image when I was reading the book, these, I mean, these two chapters in the book, about it's a huge family dinner.
But hey, you were the one that helped me get here, and you helped me get here." Just like a good family dinner, you know, and, "Hey, pass the potatoes," and all that kind of great stuff.
And so, like, but it's a beautiful heavenly banquet, and that is what he is calling us to.
But that the, that true friendship is actually, like, one of his most beautiful, divine pieces of art, artwork that he wants to show the rest of the world.
We see that in the Old Testament, how beautiful is it for brothers to dwell with one another.
Like, when you see really good friendship or really good relationships done really well, and when they're knitted together with the Holy Spirit, it is a foretaste of heaven.
Yeah, that's so good, and I think he's reiterating again that our friendships with one another aren't a means to an end, that it all comes together, and I love this on page 92.
He said, "Thus, friendship is meant to last forever." I'm gonna read more, but just that was like mic drop.
And he goes on to say, "It's not a stage that falls away when we've used it to come to divine intimacy and to universal love of our fellow men.
It's not a mere means to God, which is to be cast aside when it has served its purpose, for I do not love others only as a means to friendship with the Holy Trinity.
He is always an end in, in himself to be loved for his own sake." And I, I love all of that, and I love that friendship is supposed to be forever, you know? The unity that you feel, especially when people are in the Lord, is quite tremendous.
I remember we went over to England just, like, a month ago to do a retreat over there.
there.And we got in a room with a bunch of people on a team that we, that were gonna be the team serving there, and we had never met them before.
Oh, they have a heart like mine." You know, they have a heart like mine, and there was just suddenly this unity in the Spirit that was just in the room.
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