Jul 20, 2026 · 36 min · 12 segments
In this episode, we continue our book study on Friendship in the Lord and reflect on the ways God invites us to grow through the relationships He has entrusted to us. We talk about the importance of…
I do wanna talk about this beautiful friendship that begins with St. Catherine of Siena and Blessed Raymond.
And he's just describing this, like, stunning friendship and a deep friendship that existed between these two.
It says, "That special faith results in so much love that it cannot believe or imagine that either one of us could wish anything else than the other's good.
And it believes earnestly, for it seeks this good with great insistence in the sight of God and men, seeking ever in the other the glory of God's name and the profit of his soul." And I think this just gives us such a beautiful frame for friendships that, that I'm gonna say do, can, and should exist between men and women, holy friendships.
actually-That we don't talk enough about because in Catholic circles, I have actually only heard the opposite.
And I don't know if you all have heard this, but I've heard many people say that men and women can't be friends, that they can't have holy friendships.
And, uh, it's something that has pained me for a long time, and I thought, "Wow, we've never talked about this." And then here we are in the book, and he's describing these beautiful, holy friendships between saints, and I'm like, "Yes and amen.
This is a good topic." So I would love for us to just, like, talk about this a little bit.
But I loved it, and it, that last line, "Seeking even in the other the glory of God's name and profit of his soul." But I think what St.
Catherine of Siena and Blessed Raymond were talking about was just, like, that we have to have active special faith in other people, the people that the Lord has entrusted to us.
Like, it goes on in more in that chapter to talk about the entrustment of souls.
So when you seek someone's glory out, like, "Okay, I can see the unrepeatable and unique display of glory in Heather, you know, in Sister," and then you call it out and you help activate it, you help cultivate it, it's just such a different way of looking at friendship.
It's not something that's new to me, but it was something that I was like, "Wow, this is our baptismal call, is to call out," which is something we've talked about on the podcast before.
I do wanna talk about this beautiful friendship that begins with St. Catherine of Siena and Blessed Raymond.
And he's just describing this, like, stunning friendship and a deep friendship that existed between these two.
It says, "That special faith results in so much love that it cannot believe or imagine that either one of us could wish anything else than the other's good.
And it believes earnestly, for it seeks this good with great insistence in the sight of God and men, seeking ever in the other the glory of God's name and the profit of his soul." And I think this just gives us such a beautiful frame for friendships that, that I'm gonna say do, can, and should exist between men and women, holy friendships.
actually-That we don't talk enough about because in Catholic circles, I have actually only heard the opposite.
And I don't know if you all have heard this, but I've heard many people say that men and women can't be friends, that they can't have holy friendships.
And, uh, it's something that has pained me for a long time, and I thought, "Wow, we've never talked about this." And then here we are in the book, and he's describing these beautiful, holy friendships between saints, and I'm like, "Yes and amen.
This is a good topic." So I would love for us to just, like, talk about this a little bit.
But I loved it, and it, that last line, "Seeking even in the other the glory of God's name and profit of his soul." But I think what St.
Catherine of Siena and Blessed Raymond were talking about was just, like, that we have to have active special faith in other people, the people that the Lord has entrusted to us.
Like, it goes on in more in that chapter to talk about the entrustment of souls.
So when you seek someone's glory out, like, "Okay, I can see the unrepeatable and unique display of glory in Heather, you know, in Sister," and then you call it out and you help activate it, you help cultivate it, it's just such a different way of looking at friendship.
It's not something that's new to me, but it was something that I was like, "Wow, this is our baptismal call, is to call out," which is something we've talked about on the podcast before.
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