Kyle PetersonHost
Walter, we've been trying to make sense, and we talked about this on the podcast a little bit yesterday, of what's going on with the president's actions in Ukraine.

Over the past couple weeks, the president has waived new sanctions that were supposed to take effect that Congress passed.

He has gone about that Russian diesel deal to unleash Russian diesel onto the global market.

It's not exactly a great closing argument ahead of an election that looks to be tough for Republicans.

So what's the strategy behind this seemingly chaotic amount of activity involving the war in Ukraine?
Well, first of all, we've got to remember that it's not just Ukraine that both the president's thinking about and that he's being kind of hyperactive about, because there's also a lot going on in the Middle East.
Some of our listeners may remember there's actually a war going on of some kind there.
And what we see is that in the last week, the president has endorsed Bibi for reelection, which is a kind of a surprising move.
Apparently, another aircraft carrier strike group is being ordered to the Middle East, which would raise the number that are there to three.
And there was the meeting between Secretary Hegseth And Bibi, where Bibi actually, I'm told, skipped a soccer game, which would have been a kind of a big election rally to get to that.
And I've argued in the past that really almost since the start, maybe since the start of his second term, President Trump knows he's got two wings in his coalition.
He's got a restrainer wing that really wants him to do, you know, wants nothing to do with wars in Ukraine, nothing to do with wars in Europe, focus on the Western hemisphere, break with kind of classic post-World War II American foreign policy.
And then he's got a more hawkish kind of conventional post 9-1-1 Republican thinking, which wants a strong American presence and believes in continuing that global foreign policy that we've had since World War II.
And to some degree, what he's done is he's given Ukraine, Russia to the restrainers, and he's given Middle East to the hawks.
So if he's going to be more hawkish in the Middle East, he'll do something dovish, quote, on Ukraine.
Or if he's going to support Ukraine, he'll pull back in the Middle East.

Well, well, I mean, I agree that there's clearly some coalition management going on.

Walter, we've been trying to make sense, and we talked about this on the podcast a little bit yesterday, of what's going on with the president's actions in Ukraine.

Over the past couple weeks, the president has waived new sanctions that were supposed to take effect that Congress passed.

He has gone about that Russian diesel deal to unleash Russian diesel onto the global market.

It's not exactly a great closing argument ahead of an election that looks to be tough for Republicans.

So what's the strategy behind this seemingly chaotic amount of activity involving the war in Ukraine?
Well, first of all, we've got to remember that it's not just Ukraine that both the president's thinking about and that he's being kind of hyperactive about, because there's also a lot going on in the Middle East.
Some of our listeners may remember there's actually a war going on of some kind there.
And what we see is that in the last week, the president has endorsed Bibi for reelection, which is a kind of a surprising move.
Apparently, another aircraft carrier strike group is being ordered to the Middle East, which would raise the number that are there to three.
And there was the meeting between Secretary Hegseth And Bibi, where Bibi actually, I'm told, skipped a soccer game, which would have been a kind of a big election rally to get to that.
And I've argued in the past that really almost since the start, maybe since the start of his second term, President Trump knows he's got two wings in his coalition.
He's got a restrainer wing that really wants him to do, you know, wants nothing to do with wars in Ukraine, nothing to do with wars in Europe, focus on the Western hemisphere, break with kind of classic post-World War II American foreign policy.
And then he's got a more hawkish kind of conventional post 9-1-1 Republican thinking, which wants a strong American presence and believes in continuing that global foreign policy that we've had since World War II.
And to some degree, what he's done is he's given Ukraine, Russia to the restrainers, and he's given Middle East to the hawks.
So if he's going to be more hawkish in the Middle East, he'll do something dovish, quote, on Ukraine.
Or if he's going to support Ukraine, he'll pull back in the Middle East.

Well, well, I mean, I agree that there's clearly some coalition management going on.
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
Search every transcript — by keyword, by phrase, or by meaning, across every show Radar indexes
Trends — what is surging across podcasts, measured against its own baseline
Alerts — when a name you follow appears in a newly indexed episode
No account is needed to search Radar.