Nov 4, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 15 segments
Brad sits down with Lewis Crumpton, a former church counsellor who walked away from religion, came out as gay, and rebuilt his life from scratch by mastering the skill of trading financial markets…
Brad StainesHostAnd I think I actually hate the phrase, which is, and this is a hot take, I hate the phrase, everything happens for a reason.
i was going to be very strong with my words there um i just think it's a very misplaced thing to say particularly to certain people who've been through very very traumatic events what i prefer to say is reason can come out of everything So it's like you were saying that you can learn a lesson from anything.
But to say that thing happened for a reason, I think that's that becomes problematic for me.
If I think about some of the things that have happened to me or people very close to me to say that, oh, there was a reason why that happened to you doesn't sit very well.

So it's kind of, I wouldn't say similar, is it? But it's almost like just flipping on its head a little bit and kind of having a bit of a different mindset to it.

Is that how you manage to cope with that period looking back now without any negative thoughts? I
uh that get me through on a day-to-day basis but i think one of them is probably probably more it's about responsibility it's not about fault and i i'm a big believer that we're all where we are right now whether that's a good place or a bad place stuff happens sometimes our fault sometimes not our fault but it's not about fault it's about responsibility so we all have to take responsibility to shift from where we are now to where we want to be and i was talking to a friend about this yesterday actually and i used the example of in a car crash if someone goes into the back of your car it's not your fault but it is your responsibility to get that car home
it's the same with our lives someone can crash into our lives and cause damage and distraction it's still our job to move our life forward it's still our responsibility And so I think I've always taken that responsibility as much as in the church and Christ was our saviour.
I've always taken the initiative, I suppose, and taken the responsibility to shift myself from where I was to where I wanted to be.

as you said, Christ will be the saviour, but it's just more like a, it's one of the tools that you have to lead through life, I think.
And I think I actually hate the phrase, which is, and this is a hot take, I hate the phrase, everything happens for a reason.
i was going to be very strong with my words there um i just think it's a very misplaced thing to say particularly to certain people who've been through very very traumatic events what i prefer to say is reason can come out of everything So it's like you were saying that you can learn a lesson from anything.
But to say that thing happened for a reason, I think that's that becomes problematic for me.
If I think about some of the things that have happened to me or people very close to me to say that, oh, there was a reason why that happened to you doesn't sit very well.

So it's kind of, I wouldn't say similar, is it? But it's almost like just flipping on its head a little bit and kind of having a bit of a different mindset to it.

Is that how you manage to cope with that period looking back now without any negative thoughts? I
uh that get me through on a day-to-day basis but i think one of them is probably probably more it's about responsibility it's not about fault and i i'm a big believer that we're all where we are right now whether that's a good place or a bad place stuff happens sometimes our fault sometimes not our fault but it's not about fault it's about responsibility so we all have to take responsibility to shift from where we are now to where we want to be and i was talking to a friend about this yesterday actually and i used the example of in a car crash if someone goes into the back of your car it's not your fault but it is your responsibility to get that car home
it's the same with our lives someone can crash into our lives and cause damage and distraction it's still our job to move our life forward it's still our responsibility And so I think I've always taken that responsibility as much as in the church and Christ was our saviour.
I've always taken the initiative, I suppose, and taken the responsibility to shift myself from where I was to where I wanted to be.

as you said, Christ will be the saviour, but it's just more like a, it's one of the tools that you have to lead through life, I think.
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