Oct 17, 2026 · 18 min · 10 segments
So what about UFOs and God? Is this all spiritual? Ryan asks the question: What about aircraft then, how could those be demons? And the answer is one he's never heard.
Wes LlewellynGuest
Ryan WigginsHost
Well, people always ask us, they say, "So you made this film, so you think they're real?" And it's like, well, we know they're real.

The question is, what are they and where are they from? That's the big question.

Now, w- how do you delineate? Because we, we talk about this topic, you know, every now and then on our shows that we do here in St.

But ultimately, what we always land on is, well, there's gotta be a difference between the UFO part and the alien part, because people having encounters with beings seems very different than seeing something in the sky.
Well, I'm, I'm going to, um, speak from personal experience as an abductee that they're absolutely, completely, and 100% related to [laughs] one, to one another.
Um, uh, if you, if you have a, a so-called alien, um, that's, that, uh, is going to be abducting you, they've gotta put you somewhere.
Um, I personally believe that craft are kind of a, a, a way to have a, a portal.
I do believe that they are interdimensional, um, only because they behave more like an interdimensional thing than they, than they do as a nuts and bolts from another planet kind of, uh, thing.

I mean, I, I've always known it was big, but, uh, doing this documentary, it...

There's no way, and everybody says it, physics as we know it, there's no way with physics as we know it that someone could come here, visit, and go home.

Well, people always ask us, they say, "So you made this film, so you think they're real?" And it's like, well, we know they're real.

The question is, what are they and where are they from? That's the big question.

Now, w- how do you delineate? Because we, we talk about this topic, you know, every now and then on our shows that we do here in St.

But ultimately, what we always land on is, well, there's gotta be a difference between the UFO part and the alien part, because people having encounters with beings seems very different than seeing something in the sky.
Well, I'm, I'm going to, um, speak from personal experience as an abductee that they're absolutely, completely, and 100% related to [laughs] one, to one another.
Um, uh, if you, if you have a, a so-called alien, um, that's, that, uh, is going to be abducting you, they've gotta put you somewhere.
Um, I personally believe that craft are kind of a, a, a way to have a, a portal.
I do believe that they are interdimensional, um, only because they behave more like an interdimensional thing than they, than they do as a nuts and bolts from another planet kind of, uh, thing.

I mean, I, I've always known it was big, but, uh, doing this documentary, it...

There's no way, and everybody says it, physics as we know it, there's no way with physics as we know it that someone could come here, visit, and go home.
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