Oct 13, 2026 · 57 min · 10 segments
In this episode of When Health Freezes Over, Host Omar Haq speaks with Athena Minor, Chief Nursing and Chief…
Omar HaqHost
And that's what I'm trying to understand is what is it about people in Washington or state capitals or large urban health systems, you know, that fundamentally misunderstand about running a rural hospital? You know, why are we not able to make that case? Obviously, you know, you are living that life daily.

And as are many, many rural hospitals in this country, even Pennsylvania has lost a lot of rural hospitals over the last three to five years.

What is it about, you know, the rural hospitals that Washington or in Pennsylvania, the state capital being Harrisburg, what is it that they don't understand? Why is it that we're not able to make that case? What are your thoughts on that?
Well, I believe that there is a true lack of understanding because people base what they believe on their own experiences.
Rural America is different than most places that most of these people have lived and served and been active for most of their life.
Whereas in rural America, that could be 20 miles down the road before you can get groceries.
And when you have people who are looking at mass decision making, what they're doing is they're looking at data and they're taking averages and they're looking at what's common.
What's the common thread? And by doing that, you have a lot of rural health care that has been overlooked and misunderstood.
So I think that not knowing what the specific obstacles are to rural health, not understanding why something may not be a big deal if it's at an urban hospital is now a big deal at rural health is part of that misunderstanding.

So Athena, let me ask you this sort of my natural question is like, you know, every organization or every group has lobbyists.

I don't know, you know, if any of that sort of stuff exists for, and again, you've talked about cash in hand being 20 to 40 days, probably be difficult to hire lobbyists when you're operating on sort of, you know, thin air.

I mean, the pharmaceutical industry, obviously, everybody got they've got tons of money.

And that's what I'm trying to understand is what is it about people in Washington or state capitals or large urban health systems, you know, that fundamentally misunderstand about running a rural hospital? You know, why are we not able to make that case? Obviously, you know, you are living that life daily.

And as are many, many rural hospitals in this country, even Pennsylvania has lost a lot of rural hospitals over the last three to five years.

What is it about, you know, the rural hospitals that Washington or in Pennsylvania, the state capital being Harrisburg, what is it that they don't understand? Why is it that we're not able to make that case? What are your thoughts on that?
Well, I believe that there is a true lack of understanding because people base what they believe on their own experiences.
Rural America is different than most places that most of these people have lived and served and been active for most of their life.
Whereas in rural America, that could be 20 miles down the road before you can get groceries.
And when you have people who are looking at mass decision making, what they're doing is they're looking at data and they're taking averages and they're looking at what's common.
What's the common thread? And by doing that, you have a lot of rural health care that has been overlooked and misunderstood.
So I think that not knowing what the specific obstacles are to rural health, not understanding why something may not be a big deal if it's at an urban hospital is now a big deal at rural health is part of that misunderstanding.

So Athena, let me ask you this sort of my natural question is like, you know, every organization or every group has lobbyists.

I don't know, you know, if any of that sort of stuff exists for, and again, you've talked about cash in hand being 20 to 40 days, probably be difficult to hire lobbyists when you're operating on sort of, you know, thin air.

I mean, the pharmaceutical industry, obviously, everybody got they've got tons of money.
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