Oct 20, 2026 · 46 min · 13 segments
**EPISODE DESCRIPTION** In this episode, I sit down with David Lucatch, co-founder of nGRND, a project doing something I had never seen before: tokenizing gold that stays in the ground, untouched…
David LucatchGuest
Sam KamaniHost
that's yeah that that's cool way to to do it and then you also have like the in-ground gold protocol and then the in-ground gold token and how do these two differ and or when what's the similarity between them or or how are they connected

So it doesn't have any, other than the gold, it has no direct monetary benefits.

The gold protocol takes some of the money that we make from our gold system, our alternative land use, some of our other distribution and programs, and we put that into our ecosystem for our rewards.

People participate in our gold ecosystem, our gold protocol, and they receive rewards in the form of stable coins for participation.

So we have two products, we have a gold protocol, which people, you know, become sort of brand ambassadors, they, they help us promote and support, they participate in advance, and they get rewarded.

When it's mined, it creates a lot of land use, land erosion, water, a lot of environmental impact.

So the land that stays preserved and we can do things like avoided mining on it.

We can do all kinds of great things on that land and create value and revenue on the land.

There are many pieces of property where there are parks that we can't do anything with, or there are coffee plantations that have gold underneath it.

that's yeah that that's cool way to to do it and then you also have like the in-ground gold protocol and then the in-ground gold token and how do these two differ and or when what's the similarity between them or or how are they connected

So it doesn't have any, other than the gold, it has no direct monetary benefits.

The gold protocol takes some of the money that we make from our gold system, our alternative land use, some of our other distribution and programs, and we put that into our ecosystem for our rewards.

People participate in our gold ecosystem, our gold protocol, and they receive rewards in the form of stable coins for participation.

So we have two products, we have a gold protocol, which people, you know, become sort of brand ambassadors, they, they help us promote and support, they participate in advance, and they get rewarded.

When it's mined, it creates a lot of land use, land erosion, water, a lot of environmental impact.

So the land that stays preserved and we can do things like avoided mining on it.

We can do all kinds of great things on that land and create value and revenue on the land.

There are many pieces of property where there are parks that we can't do anything with, or there are coffee plantations that have gold underneath it.
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