The MIT Whistleblower: How Autism Unlocked Alien Communication with Ogi Ogas

These are not, uh, you know, obscure books at all.

Um, and they are coming from the messages I get and these visions from the extraterrestrials.

It's remarkable.

Are you, um, aware of the quote that, um, Joseph Campbell said that, "The, um, waters in which the schizophrenic drowns is the same water in which the mystic swims with delight"?

I have not heard that.

That is a beautiful, beautiful quote, and right on the money as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, me too.

You know, I call it a form of psychosis in a, in a, in a way because people are ...

But we've all, we've only given it a negative connotation, but that's just a-

Mm

... a state of consciousness, right? That you're in and haven't learned to function in, which is what reality is anyway.

You w- they've taught us to, you know, what these things are.

A tree is a tree, a cloud is a cloud, the sun is a ball of gas, and these things.

And so there's a construct at which we've all agreed upon to gaze at it and say that that is what it is.

But the moment one steps into a heightened state, a different state of conscious awareness, the tree is no longer a tree.

There is a relationship, so it's a, you, you, you feel deeply.

You feel like it's a friend.

That, that we exhale carbon and it exhales, um, oxygen, and we need each other.

So we're in relationship, like you said, with the molecules and the universes and everything around us.

Um, the states of psychosis, if you will, people would call that when I would walk around talking to trees and hugging trees and, and they're talking back and those things.

And, um, and it's just a level that maybe other people aren't on.

Um, and then the one who's the odd man out looks like the one who is the crazy person or the schizophrenic.

So what I've experienced in, in my journey was the beginning of this in the negative dark side of trying to get into seance rituals and Satanism and different dark occultic things as a teenager, just a misguided youth.

And I got in, opened up portals in my mind, started seeing these beings.

They started pulling me into trances and-