Oct 19, 2026 · 1 hr 20 min · 11 segments
Our two great loves, snare sounds and publishing rights, collide. Choose a side in our acrimonious breakup as we explore: what's "the song," really? Has Rick Rubin ever heard a b-side? How can we…
We're doing Depeche Mode's-
Yeah
...
Violator.
Yeah.
Um, a band that I had definitely heard of and, and, you know, like new, new fans of.
Uh, friend of the show Beth i- is, I, I know a big Depeche Mode fan.
Um-
Well, and, and I've been ...
As I was listening I was, I was thinking about how these guys are kind of the, uh, kind of the ...
Certainly on, on, on the mountain of, like, pasty, brooding British guys with synthesizers.
Um-
[laughs]
... now that I've, now that I've heard Depeche Mode.
It's like, no, they're the, they're the art school k- like-
Yeah
...
they would not find that, that comparison flattering, I don't think.
N- uh, yeah, I don't, I don't think so.
Um, you know, they're definitely wearing sunglasses.
They're definitely wearing black, uh, black jeans and, and, and black Chuck Taylors.
Um-
[laughs] You know what just-
We're doing Depeche Mode's-
Yeah
...
Violator.
Yeah.
Um, a band that I had definitely heard of and, and, you know, like new, new fans of.
Uh, friend of the show Beth i- is, I, I know a big Depeche Mode fan.
Um-
Well, and, and I've been ...
As I was listening I was, I was thinking about how these guys are kind of the, uh, kind of the ...
Certainly on, on, on the mountain of, like, pasty, brooding British guys with synthesizers.
Um-
[laughs]
... now that I've, now that I've heard Depeche Mode.
It's like, no, they're the, they're the art school k- like-
Yeah
...
they would not find that, that comparison flattering, I don't think.
N- uh, yeah, I don't, I don't think so.
Um, you know, they're definitely wearing sunglasses.
They're definitely wearing black, uh, black jeans and, and, and black Chuck Taylors.
Um-
[laughs] You know what just-
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