Sep 9, 2026 · 2 hr 47 min · 15 segments
A Conversation with the Aging Arborist This episode of the treeActions podcast is a little different. I recently had the pleasure of being a guest on The Aging Arborist podcast, where we had a…
Right? Exactly.
Okay.
My experience growing up deaf, that's the whole problem that I had.
I still...
this one's listening this one speaks this one listens and it's the only way communication actually works it doesn't work in any other way right but the key point to add to that is the only way that you can actually listen is to listen to the end of what somebody says and that i just thought that's something that if the listeners miss that that's key like just pretend that you don't know the language that more harmonious response as opposed to what you said, I need to get this out now so hopefully I don't forget kind of a thing.
Then the second part is everybody's unique in their leadership positions, but I'm in their municipality.
And this is not a knock on it, but the municipality is known for leave you spot on, love it.
But I think the question would be like what do you, when you have challenges of people not wanting to listen to you and not wanting to wait until you finish your point and not wanting to jump on the bandwagon as a team, is there something that you kind of learned over your career not everything is going to work out the way you want it to.
Yeah,
working in those types of environments, municipal environments, can be tough.
Because oftentimes you're not, depending on the environment you're in and the culture that's built there, sometimes you're actually rewarded for not working hard.
It
When it comes to, if you're in a leadership position and you don't feel people are listening, as long as you have their, as long as there's a level of respect there, you just have to learn how to change your style of communication.
people.
The public sector,
cannot, right? They tend to get channeled elsewhere out of your way, hopefully.
But in a situation where the culture doesn't build, what I've learned through leadership and mostly from training is what we call the three C's, right? People, generally speaking, painting with a big, broad brush here, I'm not a psychologist, but people crave, they want to be seen as competent, they want to be seen as connected, or they want to be seen as, you know, They want these things.
preference.
Right? Exactly.
Okay.
My experience growing up deaf, that's the whole problem that I had.
I still...
this one's listening this one speaks this one listens and it's the only way communication actually works it doesn't work in any other way right but the key point to add to that is the only way that you can actually listen is to listen to the end of what somebody says and that i just thought that's something that if the listeners miss that that's key like just pretend that you don't know the language that more harmonious response as opposed to what you said, I need to get this out now so hopefully I don't forget kind of a thing.
Then the second part is everybody's unique in their leadership positions, but I'm in their municipality.
And this is not a knock on it, but the municipality is known for leave you spot on, love it.
But I think the question would be like what do you, when you have challenges of people not wanting to listen to you and not wanting to wait until you finish your point and not wanting to jump on the bandwagon as a team, is there something that you kind of learned over your career not everything is going to work out the way you want it to.
Yeah,
working in those types of environments, municipal environments, can be tough.
Because oftentimes you're not, depending on the environment you're in and the culture that's built there, sometimes you're actually rewarded for not working hard.
It
When it comes to, if you're in a leadership position and you don't feel people are listening, as long as you have their, as long as there's a level of respect there, you just have to learn how to change your style of communication.
people.
The public sector,
cannot, right? They tend to get channeled elsewhere out of your way, hopefully.
But in a situation where the culture doesn't build, what I've learned through leadership and mostly from training is what we call the three C's, right? People, generally speaking, painting with a big, broad brush here, I'm not a psychologist, but people crave, they want to be seen as competent, they want to be seen as connected, or they want to be seen as, you know, They want these things.
preference.
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