Alex WilhelmHostGrant LeeGuest
And I'm glad I have you guys here because I do want to start with the biggest topic.


And there were about 25 names on this letter defending and advocating for open models.

Since then, it's grown to over 100 different companies that have all signed up about this.

But I'm curious about who got essentially asked to sign and if they wanted to or not.

So, Grant, I know Gamma is a pretty big name now in the AI game, over 100 million ARR, multi-billion dollar valuation.

Did anyone reach out and say, hey, do you guys want to sign the open weight survivability model
Yeah, I mean, I think everybody in the industry, you know, other than maybe the two major players, is a very big proponent of keeping things open and making sure open has a chance at, you know, continuing to play a big role in how we innovate in AI and just technology broadly.

this virtual signaling? I'm trying to figure out, like, everyone's showing up suddenly to take part in this.
uh there's certainly some bullying going on um nobody wants to be on the wrong side of nvidia no uh obviously we are never almost i can imagine grant is uh It's in everybody's incentive to want open weight models for us, but we're not the guys pouring billions of dollars into R&D to create the weights.
So, yeah, I mean, it came out yesterday that NVIDIA is about to plow $250 billion into open AI data center projects.


And I want to get to OpenAI and Anthropic in a second, but I was thinking about how this applies to your guys' companies.

And I'm glad I have you guys here because I do want to start with the biggest topic.


And there were about 25 names on this letter defending and advocating for open models.

Since then, it's grown to over 100 different companies that have all signed up about this.

But I'm curious about who got essentially asked to sign and if they wanted to or not.

So, Grant, I know Gamma is a pretty big name now in the AI game, over 100 million ARR, multi-billion dollar valuation.

Did anyone reach out and say, hey, do you guys want to sign the open weight survivability model
Yeah, I mean, I think everybody in the industry, you know, other than maybe the two major players, is a very big proponent of keeping things open and making sure open has a chance at, you know, continuing to play a big role in how we innovate in AI and just technology broadly.

this virtual signaling? I'm trying to figure out, like, everyone's showing up suddenly to take part in this.
uh there's certainly some bullying going on um nobody wants to be on the wrong side of nvidia no uh obviously we are never almost i can imagine grant is uh It's in everybody's incentive to want open weight models for us, but we're not the guys pouring billions of dollars into R&D to create the weights.
So, yeah, I mean, it came out yesterday that NVIDIA is about to plow $250 billion into open AI data center projects.


And I want to get to OpenAI and Anthropic in a second, but I was thinking about how this applies to your guys' companies.
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