Ecstasy in The Treatment of Trauma with Jonathan Robinson

Sure.

I was originally from LA, and now I live near Sacramento.

Okay.

And, uh, I was blessed to have a very difficult childhood, so I got into this, uh, psychological healing at a very young age.

[chuckles] Okay.

I like the way you put that.

That's a perfect entrée into, uh, my first question is how did all this start for you? How did this interest and, and, and, and work start?

Well, when you're 10 or 11, you can't leave your family, so I got into self-help books and got into things like hypnosis and meditation by the time I was 11 or 12.

And, uh, then-

Who gets into that stuff at 10 or 11?

Uh, well, me.

[chuckles]

And I know that was unusual, but I could read, and books were available.

I could, uh, heal myself.

Okay.

So let's take a step back.

What was going on such that you started reaching out to these, these types of books?

Well, my stepfather, father, really, a lot of violence in my childhood.

And, um, I just saw that, you know, you couldn't get out of your family, but you can go in.

Peace is within.

So I got into, you know, things like meditation, and by the time I was 15, I was into psychedelics and really saw that I could make progress in that way.

And eventually, that led me to MDMA, and for the...

I did graduate work on how MDMA can help people, including myself, overcome PTSD and trauma.

All right.

So between the time that you started, um, doing this, this kind of self inner work, if you will, 11, 12-

Sure.

I was originally from LA, and now I live near Sacramento.

Okay.

And, uh, I was blessed to have a very difficult childhood, so I got into this, uh, psychological healing at a very young age.

[chuckles] Okay.

I like the way you put that.

That's a perfect entrée into, uh, my first question is how did all this start for you? How did this interest and, and, and, and work start?

Well, when you're 10 or 11, you can't leave your family, so I got into self-help books and got into things like hypnosis and meditation by the time I was 11 or 12.

And, uh, then-

Who gets into that stuff at 10 or 11?

Uh, well, me.

[chuckles]

And I know that was unusual, but I could read, and books were available.

I could, uh, heal myself.

Okay.

So let's take a step back.

What was going on such that you started reaching out to these, these types of books?

Well, my stepfather, father, really, a lot of violence in my childhood.

And, um, I just saw that, you know, you couldn't get out of your family, but you can go in.

Peace is within.

So I got into, you know, things like meditation, and by the time I was 15, I was into psychedelics and really saw that I could make progress in that way.

And eventually, that led me to MDMA, and for the...

I did graduate work on how MDMA can help people, including myself, overcome PTSD and trauma.

All right.

So between the time that you started, um, doing this, this kind of self inner work, if you will, 11, 12-