Aug 27, 2026 · 1 hr 37 min · 17 segments
In this episode, Drew Perkins is joined by Dr. Nathan Dolenc to unpack his recent critique of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS), detailed in his…
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Drew PerkinsHostdon't block the path of inquiry don't lay down rules that make it impossible for people to ask important questions

Welcome to the Thought Stretchers podcast, where we hope to stretch your thinking about ideas and issues important to education.

My name is Drew Perkins, and I'm your host for these dialectic conversations for intellectually

In this episode, I spoke with Nathan Dolenz, who is an assistant professor in Louisiana, works in the education department there.

and you'll hear him talk about his background and describe his work in the beginning parts of the podcast.

I will say this is a much longer than normal podcast because we got into the weeds and I thought had some really good and I thought fun conversation as we unpacked his critique of the next generation science standards.

He has five major points and some of that certainly revolves around inquiry and some things I really agreed with and some things I disagreed with.

And we found some interesting conversation to be had about that and went a little bit longer than what I anticipated.
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don't block the path of inquiry don't lay down rules that make it impossible for people to ask important questions

Welcome to the Thought Stretchers podcast, where we hope to stretch your thinking about ideas and issues important to education.

My name is Drew Perkins, and I'm your host for these dialectic conversations for intellectually

In this episode, I spoke with Nathan Dolenz, who is an assistant professor in Louisiana, works in the education department there.

and you'll hear him talk about his background and describe his work in the beginning parts of the podcast.

I will say this is a much longer than normal podcast because we got into the weeds and I thought had some really good and I thought fun conversation as we unpacked his critique of the next generation science standards.

He has five major points and some of that certainly revolves around inquiry and some things I really agreed with and some things I disagreed with.

And we found some interesting conversation to be had about that and went a little bit longer than what I anticipated.