What Troopers Never Asked a Judge For After Sandra Birchmore Died

Says, uh, "Tony, when a case goes from an official finding of self-harm to federal murder indictment, how much of that is genuine forensic discovery versus investigators finally being forced to look at what the, was right in front of them the entire time?" Well, I mean, it's two different groups of investigators that had to, to look at it.

So did one not look at it correctly the entire time? Did they choose to not look at it correctly the entire time? What's troubling here is there's a lot of people involved, and it goes far beyond Farwell himself, and that's where you start to wonder, i- was there a concerted effort here to cover this up, or was it bad police work? What are your guys' thoughts?

Lisa, I'm gonna let you start.

Here's ... [laughs] And people wonder why we choose the bear.

Um, you have men in a, in a-

[laughs]

... s- in a position of authority who are completely running the investigation who could also be involved.

Mm-hmm.

So, you know, you, you, you cannot trust ...

And I know that somebody is gonna say, "Not all men." I don't trust any man in a position of authority doing an investigation of something that he might be involved in.

So if any of those police from that department were involved in investigating this and the possible c- connection of their, their compatriot-

Their own.

Yeah

... their, their compatriot, one of their own, I don't trust it, and that's why I don't trust the medical examiners.

J- you know, first he said, "Oh, it was suicide."

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Then he had to come back and say, "Well, might not have been suicide."

Yeah.

So, mm, mm.

Th- this is why we choose the bear, though, in case anybody wonders.

And I understand that, and I-

I do

... and I, I, I think that in this case we're looking at probably, again, two things that can happen at the same time.

I think it was poorly investigated, and I only say that because we have found so many instances in the stories we've covered over the last how many years-