Mishlei 26:1 - Meteorological Metaphors for Giving Honor to a Fool Part 2)

So we had, um, who says that kites is the time of spreading out the figs to dry and And someone said, one of them, that's why it's called kaits.

It's like al-shaym, spreading out the tanim.

I couldn't figure out any linguistic connection.

So that is what it is.

I also saw the malbim on Ar-Pasuk refers us back to his commentary on 6.8 that says, I don't know if this makes a difference, ha-kaits, ahar, ha-katsir.

Okay, so summer comes after the harvest, which makes sense if you're talking about Shavuos' Zeman HaKatzir, then the kites is the period after that.

But just that's the only explicit thing that I've seen that says that there are two different chronological periods, you know, and says what the relationship is.

Okay, we had Sadigon who didn't really add anything except for Claude's ruminations.

And then we had, yeah, I think all of our English translations were pretty much the same.

Okay, so review our questions, then review our ideas.

Questions, what is the decision-making scenario here? What exactly is happening? And at what point, chronologically, is this possible addressing? Meaning, is this, I'll just elaborate on that, before you give the co-vote, while the qasil has the kavod, the kavod, or after the qasil receives the kavod? Okay, so before, during, and after.

Two, what's the relationship between the mashal and the nimshal? What's the difference between kaits and katsir? Three, why two mashalim? Are these two separate mashalim, or two facets of one mashal, or just two examples of exactly the same point? And then, I guess, and if the latter, is there any reason beyond...

you know um poetry and rhetoric uh rhetoric for having two i don't know what that would be but yeah four what are the benefit and detriment connotations of shellac and matar are both bad or both good in certain circumstances or are they good or bad depending on the time are any of these meant to convey neutrality um five from whose perspective is is uh the is it nava uh is it being stated objectively or subjectively from the standpoint of other people or subjectively from the seal's own standpoint uh six is the low nava comparing the magnitude or is it just saying low nava period seven um What is the Havamina? That the Kavod would be Nava L'Kasil.

Eight, what is the practical application? So what, to whom is the consequence harmful, the Kasil, the society, or the giver of the Kavod, or someone else, or someone else, or someone or something else, right? Because you could say, for example, we've batted around the notion that this is like Kavod HaTorah, so you could say that it's bad for the the thing that the Kavod is associated with, right? Nine, who is the intended audience? Is this for the person who is in a position to give Kavod or to the Xil or someone who is a bystander when Xil gets Kavod or is it talking to the would-be Xil? And 10, what does Kavod mean in this sense? Okay, so then we review the ideas we came up with yesterday.