667: Why this doctor stopped fearing sugar, ice cream, & alcohol | Keshav Grover, D.O, M.S.

So you call the book a bridge between conventional, holistic, and functional medicine.

So could you walk us through that framework? What do you take, what do you discard from these different modalities? And how do you integrate that into the medicine you practice every day?

So great question, Jason.

And again, thank you for having me on.

The book Wellness Bridge comes from the name from my uncle, Bridge.

His name was B-R-I-J.

And he was our family's bridge to yoga, meditation, cold-pressed juices, greens powders.

And this was back in the 80s and 90s.

And I even remember him handing us like... you know, raw almonds and nuts and things like that in the back of the car during drop-off when we were young.

And he was our family's bridge to living your daily life in a very holistic manner that has become invoked today with things like warm water in the morning, getting sunlight in the morning, and a lot of these concepts that are... kind of become hashtags in today's society.

And even at some points, my father, being a conventional medicine physician, and he practiced emergency pediatrics for about 50 years here in the inner city of Detroit, He also has a ambulatory pediatric clinic in the suburbs here in Detroit.

And so he and my uncle would get into these contentious debates about, oh, is this double blind placebo controlled? And it would be interesting because over time, my dad's acceptance of what he was, my uncle was talking about increased over time as we saw that even more research studies were being done on holistic therapies and being incorporated into even the hospital setting.

Even if you look at even wound care, a lot of the bandages used have Manuka honey in them, for example.

And that's something that we have adapted from Ayurvedic and holistic traditions around the world, really.

And so that's one point.

And then the other point is that the bridge concept is that in the past, there used to be this concept that either somebody pursued conventional therapy, whether it was a pill, a surgery, a procedure, or they pursued medicine.

just sprinkling turmeric on everything and doing these juice fasts or even like, you know, Steve Jobs was coded as doing these intense fruit only kind of consumption diets to ward off the cancer that he was dealing with.

And now in today's day and age, I don't think it's either or.

I think it's figuring out what is best for you.

And I think that And that's kind of what even I say on the diet front with our patients is that I don't wave a flag for our patients.

I need to figure out what works out for you best.

If dairy is something that suits your body, we can talk about incorporating high quality dairy into your diet.

If plant based or plant only vegan is something that you want to pursue, we can find those options that work for you.

But for the most part.

For busy individuals, like let's say you've got a mom, she's got kids that she's got to take care of in the household as she's typically the CEO and even the chairperson of the house taking care of all of those things.