Shawn Moon - Zerorez

Well, don't give us the spoiler because we want to go out and read the book.

But if you were to distill all of that information into one learning maybe that you got from asking that question, what would that be? So that's kind of unfair

because you're asking now me that one leadership question, right? And I have to distill all the things I've been thinking about.

Yep.

So here's how I would answer that.

It's a really good question.

First of all, when I ask people that question, here's what they would typically say to me.

Sometimes I would give them an advance warning, like, I'm going to ask you this question, be thinking about it.

And sometimes I wanted to spring it on them because I wanted just their top of head thinking, rah, rah.

I wanted this, you know, what comes? and i was i was talking to one and i wonder too if your answer is different just in the moment versus like thinking about it for

a couple days

right talking to one gentleman who former uh governor and actually had won the nobel prize and i posed a question to him um and he said wow that's that's a really good question let me think but but they say that And then actually really quickly, the answer comes.

That which is most important tends to come.

Here's what I didn't hear.

And here's the same response for me.

Not one person said, you know, you really need to learn how to build a better spreadsheet.

Yeah.

Nobody said that.

As important as that is, and all of the technical competencies, the listenership for this particular podcast, these are business builders.

You're out creating something lasting that matters.

And so there is no mistaking the power and the need for technical competence.

And that is absolutely critical.

But it was really interesting, Jay and Jake, as I was asking the questions, every single one of them talked about the power and the importance of the people with whom you associate.

Every one of them.

And it was almost like, when they started to think about it, it was almost like we were treading on sacred ground.

Well, don't give us the spoiler because we want to go out and read the book.

But if you were to distill all of that information into one learning maybe that you got from asking that question, what would that be? So that's kind of unfair

because you're asking now me that one leadership question, right? And I have to distill all the things I've been thinking about.

Yep.

So here's how I would answer that.

It's a really good question.

First of all, when I ask people that question, here's what they would typically say to me.

Sometimes I would give them an advance warning, like, I'm going to ask you this question, be thinking about it.

And sometimes I wanted to spring it on them because I wanted just their top of head thinking, rah, rah.

I wanted this, you know, what comes? and i was i was talking to one and i wonder too if your answer is different just in the moment versus like thinking about it for

a couple days

right talking to one gentleman who former uh governor and actually had won the nobel prize and i posed a question to him um and he said wow that's that's a really good question let me think but but they say that And then actually really quickly, the answer comes.

That which is most important tends to come.

Here's what I didn't hear.

And here's the same response for me.

Not one person said, you know, you really need to learn how to build a better spreadsheet.

Yeah.

Nobody said that.

As important as that is, and all of the technical competencies, the listenership for this particular podcast, these are business builders.

You're out creating something lasting that matters.

And so there is no mistaking the power and the need for technical competence.

And that is absolutely critical.

But it was really interesting, Jay and Jake, as I was asking the questions, every single one of them talked about the power and the importance of the people with whom you associate.

Every one of them.

And it was almost like, when they started to think about it, it was almost like we were treading on sacred ground.