Oct 15, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 27 segments
If you’ve ever wondered whether it’s too late to change direction, start over, trust yourself, or create a life that feels more like you, you need to hear this conversation. Today, Mel is joined by…
... picturing you at the Office of Management and Budget, because ever since I've followed you, I've seen you cooking.
I loved science, and I think the difference between nuclear energy policy and having a specialty food store is not that big a difference because they're all experimentation.
If you're cooking, you're testing things, but instead of ending up with, like, gibberellic acid, you end up with roast chicken.
Uh, and a lot of your recipes with roast chicken have a little vinegar in them, so that has-
And there was another thing that you just said, and that is that a lot of us opt out because we think what we're doing now doesn't qualify us for what we would like to be doing.
And if you're willing to walk toward the thing that you would have fun at, you can figure it out, and you will quickly realize that everything that you've ever done leads you somewhere and prepares you in ways you don't even realize.
... picturing you at the Office of Management and Budget, because ever since I've followed you, I've seen you cooking.
I loved science, and I think the difference between nuclear energy policy and having a specialty food store is not that big a difference because they're all experimentation.
If you're cooking, you're testing things, but instead of ending up with, like, gibberellic acid, you end up with roast chicken.
Uh, and a lot of your recipes with roast chicken have a little vinegar in them, so that has-
And there was another thing that you just said, and that is that a lot of us opt out because we think what we're doing now doesn't qualify us for what we would like to be doing.
And if you're willing to walk toward the thing that you would have fun at, you can figure it out, and you will quickly realize that everything that you've ever done leads you somewhere and prepares you in ways you don't even realize.
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