Finding Certainty in an Uncertain World | Jennie Allen and Touré Roberts

If you give up before you grow up, if you forsake the fact that you still have breath, and you cannot somehow tie that into the reality that what God has planned for you is still unfolding, then you'll miss what God ultimately has for you.

And I don't want that to happen to anybody.

[upbeat music] I'm excited today.

You're about to meet one of my new friends.

I'm gonna get to know you as well, Torrey.

Torrey Roberts is here, and thank you, man.

Thanks for hanging out-

Mm

... for a little bit.

Uh, I'm really honored to be u- on your, your podcast, and thanks for having me.

Well, I have gotten to be on your w- your wife had me on a while back.

So if you don't know, Sarah Jakes Roberts, that is... y- I'm quite sure you have probably heard of her.

[laughs] Yeah.

Um, and they're a little duo and a team leading a church in Dallas, leading a huge church in Dallas.

We're in Dallas, too.

Um, I don't know if we talked about that earlier.

Um, but yeah, grateful for your life and ministry-

Yeah

... yours and Sarah Jakes.

So tell me a little bit about the new book and kind of what we're gonna get into today.