#24 Sarah Wilson: How to Live Fully in a Collapsing World

What if the collapse we fear isn’t the end of humanity — but the end of a system that no longer serves us? Sarah Wilson is a bestselling author, journalist and activist. Her latest book, **I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World**, explores how facing the reality of the metacrisis can paradoxically bring greater clarity, courage and even joy. In this conversation, we explore: - Why the crises around us may be different expressions of one larger **metacrisis** - Sarah has moved beyond conventional ideas of **hope** - What it means to **hospice the old world** rather than desperately trying to preserve it - Humanity’s passage from adolescence toward collective adulthood - How to become an **“island of sanity”** in increasingly unstable times - Why uncertainty, nature, community and spirituality may become essential capacities for what comes next - And why humans have repeatedly turned to **dance and joy in times of crisis** Ultimately, this is a conversation about what it means to meet a moment of profound change without looking away — and to live fully and beautifully anyway. If you enjoy *The Initiation*, please **subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube**, and share the episode with someone who might resonate with this conversation.