Jun 8, 2026 · 31 min · 9 segments
The Labour government has embarked on a reorganisation of the NHS in England. And now the Health Bill (also known as the ‘NHS Modernisation Bill’) has been introduced in parliament to effect the…
Clare GeradaGuest
Nick TimminsGuest
Hugh AldwickHost
Well, it'll be interesting how history judges him, won't it? I mean, in a sense, he's set off his massive reorganization and not stuck around to see it through.

So someone else is going to have to either implement his vision or modify his vision, one or the other.

So I think some people will say he was Shadow Health Secretary for two and a half years.

And, uh, whilst nobody would want a new Secretary of State to come in like Lansley with a apparently perfectly cooked plan to turn the world upside down, he came in with remarkably few visible priorities.

You could hear Alan Milburn from the 2000s in loads of the things that Wes Streeting was saying there.

And Milburn's bits of advice was, you know, buy yourself time, have a 10-year plan.

To be fair to Milburn, when he got the money back in the 2000s, produced his first 10-year plan in four months.

I thought commissioning the Darzi review was a clever political move, possibly a necessary one.

In a sense, it didn't tell people a great deal that wasn't known already, but it told it all in one place, and very clearly and very loud.



I had high hopes for Wes Streeting, and I have to say this with a caveat 'cause I think he's done his best, but I'm disappointed.

Well, it'll be interesting how history judges him, won't it? I mean, in a sense, he's set off his massive reorganization and not stuck around to see it through.

So someone else is going to have to either implement his vision or modify his vision, one or the other.

So I think some people will say he was Shadow Health Secretary for two and a half years.

And, uh, whilst nobody would want a new Secretary of State to come in like Lansley with a apparently perfectly cooked plan to turn the world upside down, he came in with remarkably few visible priorities.

You could hear Alan Milburn from the 2000s in loads of the things that Wes Streeting was saying there.

And Milburn's bits of advice was, you know, buy yourself time, have a 10-year plan.

To be fair to Milburn, when he got the money back in the 2000s, produced his first 10-year plan in four months.

I thought commissioning the Darzi review was a clever political move, possibly a necessary one.

In a sense, it didn't tell people a great deal that wasn't known already, but it told it all in one place, and very clearly and very loud.



I had high hopes for Wes Streeting, and I have to say this with a caveat 'cause I think he's done his best, but I'm disappointed.
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