Steve Barclay

Amazing.

Stephen Barclay was number one and Martin Lewis was number two.

So when I saw that, I thought, do you know what? Anyone can really achieve.

I'm a no.

Rishi Sunak was Prime Minister at the time.

And I understand from Cabinet when it was discussed about setting up this inquiry, Stephen Barclay, who was the Secretary of State for Health, uh set up the inquiry that there were some in cabinet that thought it was too soon that we needed to rate rate but he went ahead and set up this inquiry in any event under the terms of reference she and i paraphrase in terms of reference she has been convicted uh how was she allowed in this hospital to do what she's been convicted of.

So in essence, that's the remit of the inquiry.

Immediately when I was instructed, within weeks of the inquiry being set up, I made an application for Lucy to be a core participant.