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um but you're right it is a very different gay experience getting out of your local neighborhood refreshing the grid but also different cultures different people it's yeah i don't know alistair how do you travel I, probably in my late 20s, I had a bit of a travel revelation.

I went on a bit of a sabbatical.

Actually, no, sorry.

I've been on a few sabbaticals.

The first one was very well-timed one month before COVID.

Oh, fuck.

Great time to quit your job and your life.

So we did a redo a couple of years later.

But I enjoy all sorts of travel.

I'm typically of a more low-maintenance, backpacker style, but that's evolved as I've seen a lot of the world and I'm less about covering ground, more about specific experiences.

But no, travel really is how I grew up.

It was a very big part of me branching out of my local area, my comforts, and probably directly what led me to moving to the UK eventually.

So yeah, that's my history.

How about yourselves?

I thought maybe you were traveling involved with your paycheck.

Oh, well, no, quitting your job is actually very detrimental for the traveling fund, but...

No.

I would say I think traveling... unsurprisingly, is very inaccessible in South Africa.

A, weak passport, but B, very weak currency.

And so, you know, traveling didn't really form a big part of my life, albeit traveling externally.

Internally, we traveled quite a lot until I moved to Australia.

Um, and so it kind of just opened up my world.

I mean, Australia, I was 15, was kind of the first time I'd ever been overseas, seen something different and absolutely loved it.

And I just kind of, the bug's bitten me and it's never gone away.

And it's still, that's why I moved to London.