Aug 27, 2026 · 54 min · 11 segments
Isaiah Martin didn't get good at debating MAGA by accident. Before Jubilee's 1v20, he studied nine to nine every day like he was sitting for the LSAT, and before that he spent months on MAGA TikTok…
But I wanna go back to the thing that I think is really important, 'cause I think we see this too, is that, you know, a lot of people are like, "Oh, when you're producing content, y- that content is supposed to go across someone's m- face or feed that you don't, that is on the other side, and then change their minds." And I think what's really important is what you said, is like, all of us are arming the people who agree with us with the right types of messages or things that we have seen work so that they can go and communicate to their folks.
And I think I'll give an example.
We had this guy, and maybe you've seen him before.
He goes by Never Woke.
He is, uh-
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we had him on.
Oh my, yeah.
[laughs]
What?
Yeah, yeah.
He broke-
Did he really?
Yes.
[laughs]
Yes.
So-
He's somewhat woke now.
Well, hold on.
But-
But I wanna go back to the thing that I think is really important, 'cause I think we see this too, is that, you know, a lot of people are like, "Oh, when you're producing content, y- that content is supposed to go across someone's m- face or feed that you don't, that is on the other side, and then change their minds." And I think what's really important is what you said, is like, all of us are arming the people who agree with us with the right types of messages or things that we have seen work so that they can go and communicate to their folks.
And I think I'll give an example.
We had this guy, and maybe you've seen him before.
He goes by Never Woke.
He is, uh-
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we had him on.
Oh my, yeah.
[laughs]
What?
Yeah, yeah.
He broke-
Did he really?
Yes.
[laughs]
Yes.
So-
He's somewhat woke now.
Well, hold on.
But-
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