Sep 13, 2026 · 48 min · 9 segments
Former BBC foreign journalist Melanie Marshall spent more than 20 years reporting from conflict zones and moments of upheaval across six continents. In this episode, she reveals what those experiences…
Melanie MarshallGuest
Francis GormanHost
What does that do for your appreciation of the basics? The, the, just the everyday things, being able to have a shower, just the warm cup of coffee we were talking about before we started the interview.

I think if you are, if you are open to it, I think it makes you appreciate every single moment.

And yeah, I mean, not everyone, right? Because, you know, you still get annoyed if you have a fight with your neighbor and you think, you know, like I, and it's you, me, right? I do.

When I was younger, I had a boss who used to tell me I was so lucky to come from a boring country and I would get so cross with him because all I wanted to do was travel the world and have adventures, right? And now...

I am so grateful, as you say, for being able to, okay, I'm gonna say it, flush the loo.

You flush the loo and you're like, woo, this is like a, and I used to think, like it used to be the first shower I would have after every long deployment, because like, I'll be honest, you get pretty gross.

And so I always think the trick is, to try and not lose that appreciation, to try and keep coming back to what is good in my life? What have I got? And I actually do think that's, by the way, I do think it's a business skill too, because when you are actively looking for what you have available to you, it opens up all sorts of avenues to solve problems, to pursue different ways of being and existing.

And it's not because I'm like, oh, thank God I'm not like those other folks.

It's because I look around and I think, wow, I made a coffee this morning.

Or my little kitty is playing at my feet and I'm like, oh, I'm so lucky that I'm able to go to the store and whenever I want and buy pet food and walk home.

And as you're talking, I'm thinking of the kind of big picture and what is the art of the possible? If we don't have the budget or the people or whatever, you know, I think convenience and comfort is probably killing a lot of Western businesses at the moment.

And maybe the fear of uncertainty needs to creep a little bit back in so we get a little sharper, we get a little bit more aware.

What does that do for your appreciation of the basics? The, the, just the everyday things, being able to have a shower, just the warm cup of coffee we were talking about before we started the interview.

I think if you are, if you are open to it, I think it makes you appreciate every single moment.

And yeah, I mean, not everyone, right? Because, you know, you still get annoyed if you have a fight with your neighbor and you think, you know, like I, and it's you, me, right? I do.

When I was younger, I had a boss who used to tell me I was so lucky to come from a boring country and I would get so cross with him because all I wanted to do was travel the world and have adventures, right? And now...

I am so grateful, as you say, for being able to, okay, I'm gonna say it, flush the loo.

You flush the loo and you're like, woo, this is like a, and I used to think, like it used to be the first shower I would have after every long deployment, because like, I'll be honest, you get pretty gross.

And so I always think the trick is, to try and not lose that appreciation, to try and keep coming back to what is good in my life? What have I got? And I actually do think that's, by the way, I do think it's a business skill too, because when you are actively looking for what you have available to you, it opens up all sorts of avenues to solve problems, to pursue different ways of being and existing.

And it's not because I'm like, oh, thank God I'm not like those other folks.

It's because I look around and I think, wow, I made a coffee this morning.

Or my little kitty is playing at my feet and I'm like, oh, I'm so lucky that I'm able to go to the store and whenever I want and buy pet food and walk home.

And as you're talking, I'm thinking of the kind of big picture and what is the art of the possible? If we don't have the budget or the people or whatever, you know, I think convenience and comfort is probably killing a lot of Western businesses at the moment.

And maybe the fear of uncertainty needs to creep a little bit back in so we get a little sharper, we get a little bit more aware.
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