Aug 26, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 14 segments
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Before we get into it, I have looked at the comments and I do want to clarify a few things.
And I'll say up top, I'm not someone who's ever studied law, so I might get things a little bit confused at times.
So I did in the first episode say that Lindsay had pleaded guilty, which is inaccurate legally.
What I mean to say is that she does not deny that she is responsible for this, but she has not actually entered a guilty plea.
What she has pleaded is not guilty to three counts of first degree murder and by reason what we call reason by reason of insanity it is in Massachusetts by reason of mental defect um so what so I kind of the question around this I suppose is why is she pleading not guilty if she admits to doing it so my understanding is because guilt in the law is not the same as I did it so guilt requires the act plus criminal responsibility for the act She concedes the act.
So pleading guilty would have conceded to the whole thing, which is not what she's trying to do.
I think the other thing about part one was that, you know, you were doing a pretty exhaustive laying out of the timeline.
And I suppose normally when we discuss... cases we'd often then give more of our perspective and our own the context we're bringing to a story kind of at the end so if people felt that we weren't really like sitting with and holding space with the fact that like this woman is very traumatized and she has been very very deeply ill and mentally unwell.
And, you know, I think that's why we probably hadn't gotten around to that side of this case yet.
But like you say up top, like we all of us have very close experience with mental illness like long-time listeners will know that I have been like hospitalized I have I think the same diagnosis as Lindsay and bipolar too I believe it is that she has and that's what I have and you know I think that we just want to say like up top that That's the side of the case we really want to get more into after we've laid it all out.
It's very sad because this case reminds me a lot of a really tragic case that happened here in Ireland.
Before we get into it, I have looked at the comments and I do want to clarify a few things.
And I'll say up top, I'm not someone who's ever studied law, so I might get things a little bit confused at times.
So I did in the first episode say that Lindsay had pleaded guilty, which is inaccurate legally.
What I mean to say is that she does not deny that she is responsible for this, but she has not actually entered a guilty plea.
What she has pleaded is not guilty to three counts of first degree murder and by reason what we call reason by reason of insanity it is in Massachusetts by reason of mental defect um so what so I kind of the question around this I suppose is why is she pleading not guilty if she admits to doing it so my understanding is because guilt in the law is not the same as I did it so guilt requires the act plus criminal responsibility for the act She concedes the act.
So pleading guilty would have conceded to the whole thing, which is not what she's trying to do.
I think the other thing about part one was that, you know, you were doing a pretty exhaustive laying out of the timeline.
And I suppose normally when we discuss... cases we'd often then give more of our perspective and our own the context we're bringing to a story kind of at the end so if people felt that we weren't really like sitting with and holding space with the fact that like this woman is very traumatized and she has been very very deeply ill and mentally unwell.
And, you know, I think that's why we probably hadn't gotten around to that side of this case yet.
But like you say up top, like we all of us have very close experience with mental illness like long-time listeners will know that I have been like hospitalized I have I think the same diagnosis as Lindsay and bipolar too I believe it is that she has and that's what I have and you know I think that we just want to say like up top that That's the side of the case we really want to get more into after we've laid it all out.
It's very sad because this case reminds me a lot of a really tragic case that happened here in Ireland.
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