Jun 25, 2026 · 52 min · 15 segments
The real AI risk isn't hallucinations—it's not using AI at all. That's the counterintuitive argument from Ross Guberman, founder and CEO of BriefCatch, who tells hosts…
Ross GubermanGuest
Todd SmithHost
Jody SandersHost
Ross is the founder and CEO of BriefCatch, and he has been a previous guest with us before.

And we were chatting before we hit record here about how the world has changed in the last five years.

When you were on before, you spoke about leveraging technology to improve legal writing.

You were doing brief catch at the time, I think, but Legal Writing Pro was still a part of what you were doing.

Because we spent so much time getting to know you back five years ago, we kind of like to focus on really what's happened since then.

A lot of Texas lawyers, especially appellate lawyers, will know who you are and what BriefCatch is because it's a product that both Jody and I are fans of and we use.

So let's just start where BriefCatch is right now as opposed to where it was in 2021.

Ross is the founder and CEO of BriefCatch, and he has been a previous guest with us before.

And we were chatting before we hit record here about how the world has changed in the last five years.

When you were on before, you spoke about leveraging technology to improve legal writing.

You were doing brief catch at the time, I think, but Legal Writing Pro was still a part of what you were doing.

Because we spent so much time getting to know you back five years ago, we kind of like to focus on really what's happened since then.

A lot of Texas lawyers, especially appellate lawyers, will know who you are and what BriefCatch is because it's a product that both Jody and I are fans of and we use.

So let's just start where BriefCatch is right now as opposed to where it was in 2021.
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