Talking About Organizations Podcast
Jul 14, 2026 · 46 min · 13 segments
This month we examine three pieces from the relational work perspective in economic sociology, one by Viviana Zelizer and two by her former student Nina Bandelj. The relational work perspective…
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Welcome to episode 138, where we are discussing several works on the relational work perspective of economic sociology by Viviana Zelizer and Nina Bandoli.
To learn more about these texts, please go to our website at www.talkingaboutorganizations.com.
And this is Tom calling from Carlisle in the United States.
Uh, welcome to another episode in our continuing series in economic sociology.
A lot of the work that we've done so far has, uh, been mostly from the embeddedness view.
We reached back, uh, all the way back in, I think it was episode 44 with Oliver Williamson.
So we've had that part of the discourse, uh, pretty well covered, and, uh, we have so far had one episode, uh, 117, on the relational view and, uh, s- more of a sociological perspective in economic sociology, and that was, uh, Marion Fourcade and the value of life and property.
Now, what we're gonna do today is we're gonna cover two authors very much at the center of the discussion on the relational view, and it'll also give us a chance to further the comparison of these two views against the embeddedness view.
We have, uh, Viviana A. Zelizer, who is really one of the key names in the relational view of economic sociology, and we have a book chapter of hers which is titled "How I Became a Relational Economic Sociologist and What Does That Mean?" And that was, uh, from a 2012 book.
And so we have two articles from her, one from the American Sociologist titled "Academic Familism, Spillover Prestige, and Gender Segregation in Sociology Subfields" from 2019, and then a 2020 work, "Relational Work in the Economy," kind of like a direct follow-on to the 2012 book chapter.
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna start with Zelizer's 2012 book chapter and then go from there, look at how it's, uh, how, how the field evolved in the span of eight years through the Bandoli's, uh, one of Bandoli's articles.
Then we'll go on to a discussion of the two views in economic sociology and how one is sort of starting to become more and more prominent.
Now on with the show.
Welcome to episode 138, where we are discussing several works on the relational work perspective of economic sociology by Viviana Zelizer and Nina Bandoli.
To learn more about these texts, please go to our website at www.talkingaboutorganizations.com.
And this is Tom calling from Carlisle in the United States.
Uh, welcome to another episode in our continuing series in economic sociology.
A lot of the work that we've done so far has, uh, been mostly from the embeddedness view.
We reached back, uh, all the way back in, I think it was episode 44 with Oliver Williamson.
So we've had that part of the discourse, uh, pretty well covered, and, uh, we have so far had one episode, uh, 117, on the relational view and, uh, s- more of a sociological perspective in economic sociology, and that was, uh, Marion Fourcade and the value of life and property.
Now, what we're gonna do today is we're gonna cover two authors very much at the center of the discussion on the relational view, and it'll also give us a chance to further the comparison of these two views against the embeddedness view.
We have, uh, Viviana A. Zelizer, who is really one of the key names in the relational view of economic sociology, and we have a book chapter of hers which is titled "How I Became a Relational Economic Sociologist and What Does That Mean?" And that was, uh, from a 2012 book.
And so we have two articles from her, one from the American Sociologist titled "Academic Familism, Spillover Prestige, and Gender Segregation in Sociology Subfields" from 2019, and then a 2020 work, "Relational Work in the Economy," kind of like a direct follow-on to the 2012 book chapter.
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna start with Zelizer's 2012 book chapter and then go from there, look at how it's, uh, how, how the field evolved in the span of eight years through the Bandoli's, uh, one of Bandoli's articles.
Then we'll go on to a discussion of the two views in economic sociology and how one is sort of starting to become more and more prominent.
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