Oct 13, 2026 · 29 min · 11 segments
**Guest** Karl Rove, Republican Political Strategist and Former Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush **Guest Bio** Karl Rove is one of the most influential Republican political strategists in…
Jon SlavetHost
So that's an interesting segue, uh, to talk about the midterms writ large, Karl, and Trump, because if you look at the strategy right now f- coming out of the White House, which you've talked about recently, it's Trump, Trump, Trump, rallies-

Uh, do, do you think that this strategy shifts at all between now and November? 'Cause it doesn't-
... exposure, let him be the president more and the political leader less, and give these people a chance to shine.
Give Mike Rogers in Michigan a chance to be the former FBI agent who's, uh, who's the everyman.
Give Susan Collins in Maine to be the crusty, crusty New Englander who's independent-minded.
... give John Husted in Ohio a chance to be the guy who's been the successful lieutenant governor in an eight-year administration that the people of Ohio, you know, give high marks to.
Give Steve Hilton a chance to be the independent-minded choice for Californians who don't like what's going on but don't view themselves as Republicans or maybe even as conservatives.

And, uh, The Atlantic reported recently that Trump's advisors in the Oval said to him, "You know, Americans still don't understand your big successes.

You gotta sell that." Do you think, Karl, that it's really just a question of message discipline and selling that better, or is there something else more fundamental?

So that's an interesting segue, uh, to talk about the midterms writ large, Karl, and Trump, because if you look at the strategy right now f- coming out of the White House, which you've talked about recently, it's Trump, Trump, Trump, rallies-

Uh, do, do you think that this strategy shifts at all between now and November? 'Cause it doesn't-
... exposure, let him be the president more and the political leader less, and give these people a chance to shine.
Give Mike Rogers in Michigan a chance to be the former FBI agent who's, uh, who's the everyman.
Give Susan Collins in Maine to be the crusty, crusty New Englander who's independent-minded.
... give John Husted in Ohio a chance to be the guy who's been the successful lieutenant governor in an eight-year administration that the people of Ohio, you know, give high marks to.
Give Steve Hilton a chance to be the independent-minded choice for Californians who don't like what's going on but don't view themselves as Republicans or maybe even as conservatives.

And, uh, The Atlantic reported recently that Trump's advisors in the Oval said to him, "You know, Americans still don't understand your big successes.

You gotta sell that." Do you think, Karl, that it's really just a question of message discipline and selling that better, or is there something else more fundamental?
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