HLTV's MVPs Make ZERO Sense (ft Snappi)

So the point that I have is that digging through HLTV's MVPs through history has proven that they are actually quite inconsistent in terms of how they're awarded and Especially when you actually just read the articles of what they're saying is the determining factor for why a certain person got the MVP over another.

And for a more objective, seemingly unbiased medium such as HLTV, you would just think that this is just incredibly strict criteria.

And thus, it would be difficult to argue because you know what? If HLTV outlines exactly what it is that gets you the MVP over the EVP or you win it over your teammate, I think I would just be completely satisfied.

But there have been some really crazy MVPs over history, let alone, well, and even more so in CS2.

Because going all the way back, the first HLTV MVPs in CSGO, which is where I found the earliest articles, that was a fan vote.

That was a fan vote at the beginning where if you look at the very first DreamHack, I think it was DreamHack Valencia, Boris won the MVP for 70% fan vote.

The stats do back up.

I'm pretty sure that he was the MVP of that tournament.

But then I looked through a handful after that, and they were all fan votes.

It was 70% fan vote, 30% expert panel.

But then they admitted in their own article that the expert could be just one person.

So it was just one guy having 30% of the vote, 70% was other people.

Then moving on, obviously, there were a handful of other CSGO MVPs that were definitely more contentious.

I think the MSL one is another example where if you actually look at his stats versus all of his teammates, I think he's like third or fourth best.

But it was almost pretty much the narrative of him actually being... doing this op-ing thing while being in IGL.

Just gave it to him.

But if you look at the raw numbers, like his playoff numbers, grand final, all of that, you know, all of that, he's definitely weaker than a couple of his teammates there.

So there's that one.

But I'm sure most people here just care, and most listeners really, just care about CS2.

And that still proves to be fairly inconsistent.

And if you look at the first CS2 MVP...

It goes to rain for IEM Sydney, and it uses a metric that I have literally never seen mentioned before that in CSGO or since then in CS2.

They gave it to him because if you look at it, ROPS had better...

He had better basically everything.

He had better kills per round win.