Mathieu Herbaut

It's also why I think a lot of people were so aggressively wanting him to get number one player last year, which now he didn't get.

Now he probably won't get this year because ZywOo stepped it up.

And you're going to look back and be like, genuinely, there's a world where Donk just kind of mellows out.

And maybe there's a chance he's never number one again.

He's a better fragger than Mezzy, you could argue, And obviously, they still had all the rest of the structure of the team.

They had Robs, they had Apex, they had ZywOo.

This version right now, where they don't have a real IGL.

Oh, by the way, miss me with like messy IGL.

It actually kind of can work.

It is so much about who that next guy in line is to call.

And how long removed from the initial caller trying to play out the system trying to build the system explain it to everyone is it still worthwhile for just putting together a competitive team so i don't it is kind of the result that i wouldn't have really pegged vitality to look that good against navi i thought that was going to be a closer affair for sure but i am not really surprised that they're able to be 9z in the mongols those are teams that i would have them beating even if Even if ZywOo turned off his monitor for one half, I think they're still going to probably beat those teams because of whatever happens on the second half.

Unironically, I think they could really just tend to both of those teams on almost any given map that they play in their pool.

Get some monster fifth in.

And this team is actually crazy scary, despite not having a true superstar of the, like, Dong, Zywoo, Ilk.

Like, this team is all of a sudden legit scary.

So I don't know if your Aurora thoughts have changed much over the last sort of three days.

He's got the right setup, right? Yeah.

Well, ZywOo has the best team in our days.

Of course, I'm always going to cheer for Spirit.

In all interviews, every time I say that Fatality is the strongest team in the world.

Okay, I'll put it this way.

The reason I would disagree with that statement anyway is actually for the points I'm about to make about Vitality.

I actually think ZywOo in the modern day has been at his absolute best when Vitality's been awesome and really great around him, whereas actually I think Donk, as you see in this episode, I think some of his teammates are a bit scoffed and he doesn't have the best player in all the roles.

And the difference is, Donk can do the same numbers and be better than Zee without as much help.

ApEX knows exactly what Flames is doing on the server.

And you know exactly what you get from ZywOo in terms of rotation, communication, you name it.

I have a feeling that the reason why we see Falcons fucking up all the time, why they use the same excuse every single tournament, that it's bad communication, it's over-peeking, it's fighting too much when they're not supposed to fight.

Well, who's the culprit of that? Who's the guy doing that 24/7? That's Kyosuke.

I watched the POVs and I was like, actually skill-wise, this is the next Donk.

Holy shit, they found two of these guys.

But here's the problem, right? Donk, actually an underrated detail about him is he is the only player I have ever seen in the history of Counter-Strike, even ZywOo doesn't match this one, where he did come into CS as the finished product.

I've never seen this ever in CS.

Like, what has he accomplished? How good is he as a player? Where are the trophies? Where are the MVPs? And all of these things.

And you look at that, and where he is, and where, like, Donk and ZywOo are, is, like, a completely different category.

And then there's a lot of the... a lot of discussion is like, yeah, but like MVP is a team award and blah, blah, blah, all of these things.

And, oh, he doesn't have that many trophies is because his team let him down.

I think Fallen made up for Molotov's lack of impact with rifle work, if I'm being completely honest.

He had some really nice multi-kill rounds, which...

In terms of highlights, when you rank them against a Donk or a ZywOo, it's not that, but they're impactful moments that win rounds.

And he had a lot of those.