MOUZ

Two games, excuse me, two games.

They lost one individual game to Mouz in round one.

And then they lost one individual game to Aurora in the upper bracket semis.

But they won every series.

That's not going to happen again with the rest of the tournament.

I think Miles are going to pick up and win the rest of their matches here in the group stages.

But it's a great start for Team Liquid.

And yeah, I think just the positive signs of the fact that they had mental strength.

It's not funny anymore, is it, Adam?

It's not funny anymore, is

it? I was getting bored of watching Miles lose to Vitality in finals, which I still am bored of that, to be honest.

Okay, that's fair.

Fury are there.

Mouz are there.

Falcons are there.

Legacy are there.

And then, you know, maybe a Pro League, maybe something else along the way.

And the fact that they're not even close as yeah someone in chat said no finals since cologne is kind of insane that's that's i i can't believe that's true like it's just the same thing that happened the first part the first season is happening now again and regardless of the i i mean maybe not the same teams overall but result wise no no difference

Sure, I think if you're only looking at placements, but when I look at the teams that they've lost to this season, right? So this is still, they lost to Legacy at EWC, they lost to Mouz in Porto, they lost to Spirit in Porto, they lost to Vitality at EPL, they lost to Spirit at EPL, and then they lost to Betboom, which they'd also lost to Betboom at the Major.

So maybe that shouldn't have come as so much of a surprise, but that was a close series at the Major.

That's a push.

The one I am really, really puzzled by is everyone in the scene spent the whole time in Liquid telling me Siuhy sucks all the dicks, and that actually, soon as Mouz was really good without him, he's a fraud who was never good ever, and he was carried the whole time by his coaches, his players.

I mean, remember, the worst damage ever done to Siuhy's reputation is the idea that Brollan, who clearly didn't want to be an IGL and isn't an IGL anymore, was having similar [chuckles] if not better results.

I mean, I'd debate whether it was better, like me and Mouz.

I will always point out Siuhy did win tournaments, like he even won tournaments beating people like Vitality in the final.

That is not nothing.

... that's gonna be an eight team tournament.

Yes.

It can act as an internal confidence booster, and, and maybe some of those players are, are gonna feel good about getting another trophy, and, and maybe we stop shouting out about them not winning a trophy.

But in, in the grand scheme of things, when you look at the, the Singapore Major, when you look at a couple of the bigger tournaments that's still left for the year, when there's no Vitality, when there's no Spirit, there's no Mouz, there's no G2, you name it, no NAVI for that matter as well, I feel like the, the field of team is, is not gonna move the needle for me, right? They're expected to win.

They should win.

And if they don't, it's a massive failure and it's gonna be even more trouble.

That's actually a compliment.

That means people believe our roster should be at that level.

Not, by the way, down with Aurora and Mouz and f- By the way, I don't even think Mouz will be scrutinized at this level.

I know they won one tournament, but even so, like, I think people are more tempered with their expectations of Mouz.

Which, which of these is the most impressive? Uh, okay, here we go.

ropz's sixth EPL title, ZywOo's fourth EPO MVP, Vitality the most winningest org in EPO history, or D, MOUZ capitulating versus Vitality in another final.

[laughs]

What is most impressive?

Crimson.

"At EPL it seemed that MOUZ really had Spirit's number-

Yeah

... especially when it came to specifically neutralizing the threat of Dong.

Mm-hmm.

After the first match versus Spirit, MOUZ had talked about the approach of studying where on maps he's most likely to be and targeted him in that way.

Would love your insight on the topic of targeting Dong.

Three questions that came to mind were, one- Should every team be looking to do the same ahead of a match versus Spirit? Two-