Sep 18, 2026 · 2 hr 23 min · 19 segments
Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by former NIP in-game leader Snappi to argue that HLTV's MVP awards are decided first and justified afterwards, and that the criteria change every single tournament to…
Alex EllenbergHostSnappiGuest
In fact, every time I bring this kind of stuff up, I think 80%, 90% of my stream is debating over these kinds of things.

But there's always the one guy that's like, who even cares about MVPs? The problem is that MVPs are such a strong determinant of how the top 20 placement goes.

On top of that, sometimes certain orgs will give incentives or bonuses to players, especially if they are able to accomplish those kinds of things.

Also, the same kind of guy that wonders who cares about MVPs, do pros even care about their stats? I mean, I've literally seen in-between maps at pro tournaments...

I'm not trying to snoop or anything like that, but a pro player will look at things like this in the meantime or immediately after games.

And, you know... you know, funnily, actually, I think this made front page Reddit magics when he was on the desk with me or the one-on-one interview with me after they won their game at the most recent blast event.

I'll just say this, like for the, the, the people out there that are fans that think that pros don't care about MVPs or stats or anything like that, you're gravely mistaken.

There are There are there are more than a handful that are consummate professionals that are just caring about winning and doing their absolute best regardless of the stats.

I think you even ask like pro NBA and soccer players also this kind of question.

And like I think I think Durant knew his his own box score at halftime before some crap like that.

So the point that I have is that digging through HLTV's MVPs through history has proven that they are actually quite inconsistent in terms of how they're awarded.

Especially when you actually just read the articles of what they're saying is the determining factor for why a certain person got the MVP over another.

In fact, every time I bring this kind of stuff up, I think 80%, 90% of my stream is debating over these kinds of things.

But there's always the one guy that's like, who even cares about MVPs? The problem is that MVPs are such a strong determinant of how the top 20 placement goes.

On top of that, sometimes certain orgs will give incentives or bonuses to players, especially if they are able to accomplish those kinds of things.

Also, the same kind of guy that wonders who cares about MVPs, do pros even care about their stats? I mean, I've literally seen in-between maps at pro tournaments...

I'm not trying to snoop or anything like that, but a pro player will look at things like this in the meantime or immediately after games.

And, you know... you know, funnily, actually, I think this made front page Reddit magics when he was on the desk with me or the one-on-one interview with me after they won their game at the most recent blast event.

I'll just say this, like for the, the, the people out there that are fans that think that pros don't care about MVPs or stats or anything like that, you're gravely mistaken.

There are There are there are more than a handful that are consummate professionals that are just caring about winning and doing their absolute best regardless of the stats.

I think you even ask like pro NBA and soccer players also this kind of question.

And like I think I think Durant knew his his own box score at halftime before some crap like that.

So the point that I have is that digging through HLTV's MVPs through history has proven that they are actually quite inconsistent in terms of how they're awarded.

Especially when you actually just read the articles of what they're saying is the determining factor for why a certain person got the MVP over another.
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