Zuma’s Unfinished Revolution

Can we start, perhaps, do you think, with Jacob Zuma? I mean, this is a man who's defined the country's political trajectory for like 15 years, and now it seems like he might be really ill and might not be able to properly be the face of the party heading into the local government elections.

Yeah, that's been the news of the week, unfortunately.

I mean, really, we all wanted to see MK Party at full swing, at full speed, with full power this election around.

I mean, they only had six months last election.

They got 15% of the national vote.

That's a lot.

I think that's close to 3 million votes.

That's a lot of people.

You wanted to see how they're going to do this time around, you know, and the old man has fallen sick.

He's 84 years expected.

I mean, there were conflicting reports about how sick he is.

I mean, I've heard dire reports from people close to him that he was on his last legs, but then others have said, no, he was in hospital, he had a stroke, he's been discharged.

I think the Jacob Zuma Foundation said, no, he's still in hospital, but he's sort of okay.

We don't really know where he is on the trajectory of back to full health, but it's very clear that he's very sick.

Yeah, I think people from his party are reading from his own mood.

I mean, there are videos of him jumping onto the stage, displaying that he's still in full health, etc.

He tends to do that.

So we would assume that his supporters then would take the lead from him to say that the old man is still in good shape.

I don't know why they're all trying to prove a point that he's in good shape.

He's 84 years old.

We understand.

I mean, we've had grandparents as well, so we understand.

It's already impressive that he's able to go as far as he has gone, going through these rallies at his age, with his health, etc.

You don't have to go beyond and pretend he's a young man.

It's not a big deal.