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Shake It Off with Mert & Lucas Live

Shake It Off with Mert & Lucas Live

Hour 1: Are We Forgetting September 11th? | Prof. Frank Cogliano on the Legacy of Thomas Jefferson

Sep 14, 2026 · 55 min · 20 segments

Episode 114 begins with Mert, Ryan Pagano, and Alex discussing the 25 year commemoration of the September 11th attacks, and NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani's administration releasing new documents about the…

Episode 114 begins with Mert, Ryan Pagano, and Alex discussing the 25 year commemoration of the September 11th attacks, and NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani's administration releasing new documents about the air quality in Lower Manhattan post-9/11 being covered up. Then from the 21st century to the 18th century, Professor Frank Cogliano, Professor of American History at the University of Edinburgh, joins the show to discuss his new book Thomas Jefferson Survives: American Independence in His Time and Ours, co-authored with Peter S. Onuf. Website for the podcast: https://www.nfllp.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy...

Episode 114 begins with Mert, Ryan Pagano, and Alex discussing the 25 year commemoration of the September 11th attacks, and NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani's administration releasing new documents about the…

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Speakers: Frank CoglianoGuestRyan PaganoHostMert RobertsHostAlex GarrettHost

Top entities: Thomas Jefferson×58 John Adams×7 Zohran Mamdani×7 United States Declaration of Independence×7 Dallas Cowboys×8

Show signals: SuitabilityLimitedBiasLeans right

NFL Season and Cowboys Predictions4:31 – 5:58

Ryan PaganoHost

4:31

Yeah, let's get to it is right, and what a weekend we have had thus far.

Ryan PaganoHost

4:35

Of course, week one of the NFL season, which, by the way, Mert, Alex, I'm surprised you two haven't tried to kill each other yet, given, of course, Alex being a Giants fan, excuse me, Mert, of course, being a Cowboys fan.

Ryan PaganoHost

4:47

I'm surprised you two haven't gone at each other yet.

Ryan PaganoHost

4:49

Get

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:49

it right and listen.

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:52

Alex has suffered.

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:54

He hasn't suffered as much as me because we haven't won anything since the 90s.

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:58

At least he's got two titles in this century.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:01

But we're on our way.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:05

And Alex and even you...

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:08

You guys are going to have to deal with the Cowboys because it's our time now.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:12

It's going to be our year.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:13

The Cowboys are winning it all this year.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:17

Mark my words.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:17

You

Ryan PaganoHost

5:17

heard it here first on Shake It Off with Merton Lucas, folks.

Ryan PaganoHost

5:21

I won't put any money

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:22

behind that, but I have a good, you know, it's wishful thinking.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:25

It's wishful thinking.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:25

I ain't going to bet no money behind it because you know the Cowboys will let you down.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:29

But it's wishful thinking.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:30

I think they can do something this year.

A

Alex GarrettHost

5:32

And for those listening and you didn't think sports would be involved, well, then you don't really know Ryan because Ryan's a big sports guy, above all else.

A

Alex GarrettHost

5:38

Yeah, I

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:38

told Ryan not to include no hockey.

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98%7 mentions
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97%7 mentions
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95%7 mentions
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94%8 mentions
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91%4 mentions
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FootballSports

NFL Season and Cowboys Predictions4:31 – 5:58

Ryan PaganoHost

4:31

Yeah, let's get to it is right, and what a weekend we have had thus far.

Ryan PaganoHost

4:35

Of course, week one of the NFL season, which, by the way, Mert, Alex, I'm surprised you two haven't tried to kill each other yet, given, of course, Alex being a Giants fan, excuse me, Mert, of course, being a Cowboys fan.

Ryan PaganoHost

4:47

I'm surprised you two haven't gone at each other yet.

Ryan PaganoHost

4:49

Get

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:49

it right and listen.

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:52

Alex has suffered.

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:54

He hasn't suffered as much as me because we haven't won anything since the 90s.

M

Mert RobertsHost

4:58

At least he's got two titles in this century.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:01

But we're on our way.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:05

And Alex and even you...

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:08

You guys are going to have to deal with the Cowboys because it's our time now.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:12

It's going to be our year.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:13

The Cowboys are winning it all this year.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:17

Mark my words.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:17

You

Ryan PaganoHost

5:17

heard it here first on Shake It Off with Merton Lucas, folks.

Ryan PaganoHost

5:21

I won't put any money

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:22

behind that, but I have a good, you know, it's wishful thinking.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:25

It's wishful thinking.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:25

I ain't going to bet no money behind it because you know the Cowboys will let you down.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:29

But it's wishful thinking.

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:30

I think they can do something this year.

A

Alex GarrettHost

5:32

And for those listening and you didn't think sports would be involved, well, then you don't really know Ryan because Ryan's a big sports guy, above all else.

A

Alex GarrettHost

5:38

Yeah, I

M

Mert RobertsHost

5:38

told Ryan not to include no hockey.

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