Jun 18, 2026 · 27 min · 11 segments
Should we rethink who our city streets are for? It can often feel like there is a hierarchy on the roads, with cars needing to get from A to B as fast as they can, taking priority over people cycling…
Ben AnsellHostMarco te BrömmelstroetGuestSohanna SrinivasanGuest
Martin CassiniGuest
Keith FirthGuest
And it turns out that the highway code has actually been rethought quite recently.
In 2022, it was updated to establish a hierarchy of road users with pedestrians at the top, then cyclists, then equestrians, then motorcyclists, then cars...
Pedestrians are the most vulnerable, and obviously larger vehicles will cause the most harm to the most vulnerable users on our street.
So I think the rules are there, the hierarchy is there, but how well people are aware of this is, uh, is, is questionable, I think.
Can't we all have access to the same streets? [car honking] I'm standing here waiting at a pedestrian crossing at the bottom of a T junction in central London.
We don't have that many seconds to cross, and we can certainly only do it when we're told to by the lights.
My next guest, Martin Cassini, a campaigner for traffic reform, has a radical idea for rethinking who our streets are for.
And it turns out that the highway code has actually been rethought quite recently.
In 2022, it was updated to establish a hierarchy of road users with pedestrians at the top, then cyclists, then equestrians, then motorcyclists, then cars...
Pedestrians are the most vulnerable, and obviously larger vehicles will cause the most harm to the most vulnerable users on our street.
So I think the rules are there, the hierarchy is there, but how well people are aware of this is, uh, is, is questionable, I think.
Can't we all have access to the same streets? [car honking] I'm standing here waiting at a pedestrian crossing at the bottom of a T junction in central London.
We don't have that many seconds to cross, and we can certainly only do it when we're told to by the lights.
My next guest, Martin Cassini, a campaigner for traffic reform, has a radical idea for rethinking who our streets are for.
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