Chris AveryGuest
David PasqualoneHost
And those are really the big transformations was putting healthy pressure on yourself, finding good people that you can be around, that you can trust, that can breathe life into you.

The first group of people that got me to Michael, they spent a couple years just breathing life into me.

Chris, man, what is your vision? Man, what do you want life to look like? They brought back some of those visions and desires that I had when I was a kid that I'd lost, or I wouldn't say lost, I just shoved out.

But when we have other people that can help us sustain it and grow it, that was such a key.

And those were really the things that helped Hill was understanding how to give.

Like from the things that we think are bad, how do we give from those? And at the end of the day, looking back, the biggest thing that was the healing source for me, and this may sound very weird.

I'm grateful for every day of the drug use because when I look back, I go, man, this made me who I am, and I'm grateful for who I am.

But I'm also grateful because now I can bring it up to men because men don't like to talk about molestation.

So when I can talk about molestation or my drug use or any of those struggles and I can be a source for people to see it or inspire other people that they can do it too, now you become grateful for those things.

And that's the biggest healing that I did was understanding how to shift from, man, I hate this, to it being more neutral, to now becoming grateful for it.

And then for those listening, when you were going to those conferences, they were paid too, right? It wasn't free.

Every group that I was involved in, like even the group where they gave me books and audios, like that was part of, it was an MLM if you want to know, but, and I will say, I think I made very little money from the MLM and most people go, that's really stupid.

And those are really the big transformations was putting healthy pressure on yourself, finding good people that you can be around, that you can trust, that can breathe life into you.

The first group of people that got me to Michael, they spent a couple years just breathing life into me.

Chris, man, what is your vision? Man, what do you want life to look like? They brought back some of those visions and desires that I had when I was a kid that I'd lost, or I wouldn't say lost, I just shoved out.

But when we have other people that can help us sustain it and grow it, that was such a key.

And those were really the things that helped Hill was understanding how to give.

Like from the things that we think are bad, how do we give from those? And at the end of the day, looking back, the biggest thing that was the healing source for me, and this may sound very weird.

I'm grateful for every day of the drug use because when I look back, I go, man, this made me who I am, and I'm grateful for who I am.

But I'm also grateful because now I can bring it up to men because men don't like to talk about molestation.

So when I can talk about molestation or my drug use or any of those struggles and I can be a source for people to see it or inspire other people that they can do it too, now you become grateful for those things.

And that's the biggest healing that I did was understanding how to shift from, man, I hate this, to it being more neutral, to now becoming grateful for it.

And then for those listening, when you were going to those conferences, they were paid too, right? It wasn't free.

Every group that I was involved in, like even the group where they gave me books and audios, like that was part of, it was an MLM if you want to know, but, and I will say, I think I made very little money from the MLM and most people go, that's really stupid.
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