Sep 20, 2026 · 34 min · 11 segments
Mark Geragos and Los Angeles Magazine's Lauren Conlin discuss Patrick Clancy’s first upcoming televised interview on 60 Minutes, the holdout juror’s emergence and the motions that could determine…
Lauren ConlinGuestYou know, I've had a couple of thoughts, but I think given where your life has been the last seven or eight weeks, to not talk about what is going to drop later today, which is the Patrick Clancy 60 Minutes interview, I think would probably do an injustice to you.

I've been doing these updates on Clancy, and I actually said last week on LA Magazine's YouTube, I actually said, I hope this is the last update I have for you all until September 29th or until after, because I can't believe we're still kind of in this world.

But here we are between this interview coming up and also, you know, last episode, I was very upset about the juror doxing, and I still feel the same way.

But now I'm kind of turning this corner where I'm feeling strange about all these photos released of him holding babies and with like halos around him.

And I'm just like, what are we doing here now? Now I'm like, can we just stop and be regular people and just kind of move on? I'm confused.
And I'm hopeful that they ask Patrick Clancy and his wife if they think that this was spawned by the fact that only the people in the courtroom could hear the 911 call, because I As I said before and during the trial, and as I think a number of the jurors have said since they've been interviewed, only somebody who couldn't hear the 911 call could come up or go down this rabbit hole of
Because by all accounts, and I talked to people who were in the courtroom and listened to it, that once you heard that, there is no way that you could think that that was anything but just the most gut-wrenching, guttural, primal reaction.
You know, I had a just thinking of things you can't unsee or unhear once you know it.
I was sitting in a courtroom many years ago with Lainey Sweet, who was the widow of Daniel Shaver, who was executed in the hallway in Arizona by the, I think it was the Mesa PD.
She had kind of worked assiduously to avoid watching the body cam of her husband get killed in the hallway.
And but she was attending the preliminary hearing and I was there with her of the criminal case against the officer who was later acquitted.
You know, I've had a couple of thoughts, but I think given where your life has been the last seven or eight weeks, to not talk about what is going to drop later today, which is the Patrick Clancy 60 Minutes interview, I think would probably do an injustice to you.

I've been doing these updates on Clancy, and I actually said last week on LA Magazine's YouTube, I actually said, I hope this is the last update I have for you all until September 29th or until after, because I can't believe we're still kind of in this world.

But here we are between this interview coming up and also, you know, last episode, I was very upset about the juror doxing, and I still feel the same way.

But now I'm kind of turning this corner where I'm feeling strange about all these photos released of him holding babies and with like halos around him.

And I'm just like, what are we doing here now? Now I'm like, can we just stop and be regular people and just kind of move on? I'm confused.
And I'm hopeful that they ask Patrick Clancy and his wife if they think that this was spawned by the fact that only the people in the courtroom could hear the 911 call, because I As I said before and during the trial, and as I think a number of the jurors have said since they've been interviewed, only somebody who couldn't hear the 911 call could come up or go down this rabbit hole of
Because by all accounts, and I talked to people who were in the courtroom and listened to it, that once you heard that, there is no way that you could think that that was anything but just the most gut-wrenching, guttural, primal reaction.
You know, I had a just thinking of things you can't unsee or unhear once you know it.
I was sitting in a courtroom many years ago with Lainey Sweet, who was the widow of Daniel Shaver, who was executed in the hallway in Arizona by the, I think it was the Mesa PD.
She had kind of worked assiduously to avoid watching the body cam of her husband get killed in the hallway.
And but she was attending the preliminary hearing and I was there with her of the criminal case against the officer who was later acquitted.
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