Feb 25, 2026 · 1 hr 15 min · 30 segments
In this powerful and deeply moving episode, Charles sits down with Paul Hutchinson, founder of The Child Liberation Foundation, to explore how purpose, courage, and conviction can transform…
Charles SchwartzHost
mind.Yeah, and I, and I really wanna speak on this because I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs.

But in this environment, we're not talking about let's go buy this and do it on your home sitting on the couch.

... scientific backed things that have multiple studies for decades that are in controlled environments based on your weight, your blood work, everything that's involved.

I wanna make sure, again, this is not medical advice on this show, but going through and doing this with someone who is a trained professional who's done this for an exceptionally...

But there are measurements that we, we've based it, and we-- there is science-

... and people are gonna do it because people think, "Oh, I'm gonna take this thing," people who have PTSD, and they take ayahuasca or MDMA or whatever the laundry list is in the middle of a jungle while they're licking the butt of a frog.

There are very specific things you could do in a controlled environment where we know, hey, it's, it's like building a Lego piece.

mind.Yeah, and I, and I really wanna speak on this because I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs.

But in this environment, we're not talking about let's go buy this and do it on your home sitting on the couch.

... scientific backed things that have multiple studies for decades that are in controlled environments based on your weight, your blood work, everything that's involved.

I wanna make sure, again, this is not medical advice on this show, but going through and doing this with someone who is a trained professional who's done this for an exceptionally...

But there are measurements that we, we've based it, and we-- there is science-

... and people are gonna do it because people think, "Oh, I'm gonna take this thing," people who have PTSD, and they take ayahuasca or MDMA or whatever the laundry list is in the middle of a jungle while they're licking the butt of a frog.

There are very specific things you could do in a controlled environment where we know, hey, it's, it's like building a Lego piece.
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